The JO Situation: Finally, closure!

[aunt_zelda]

http://tgwtgrumours.tumblr.com/post/17808829670/jesuotaku-and-the-rumours#notes

FINALLY! Someone confirming that yes, JO said that awful stuff. It's great that she's changed, but it was bothering me after the whole TGWTG Secrets debacle that she was denying she ever said that stuff and making things horrible for Rants and the confused fans and those of us who actually read the formspring post that has since been deleted. 

And now we can put this whole business to rest. Now that it's all out in the open ... I think I can watch JO's reviews again. *smiles*

Just got back from my first college party. Yaaaaaay! Pretty small, lots of fun dancing, lots of sexy dancing, lots of me watching people do sexy dancing and wanting to join in and not knowing the protocal for that, and me headbanging to Katy Perry and stuff. I'm sore and sweaty and I had fun. I'm glad I went out with my friends. 

Comments

[freya-sacksen.livejournal.com]

And that last comment to her, oh god, the one where he said that without evidence he couldn't trust her, and how he was all 'oh nobody came forward' because with all your white-knighting, yeah, you made it so easy and such a welcoming atmosphere for somebody to come forward you attention-seeking asshole!

ARGH.

[achika-chan.livejournal.com]

Typical male privilege douchebaggery, sadly.

[freya-sacksen.livejournal.com]

It's because of assholes like that that I almost threw myself off a bridge last year. It wasn't cool then, it's not cool now.

Also, the fact that Ven kept giving Rants Holly's contact details, and he didn't post them until Holly herself gave them...oo, that makes my blood fucking boil.

And then, when I tried to call him on it, he just went 'oh, but no one came forward, this is just a secrets blog what do you want meeeeeee to do about it?'

[achika-chan.livejournal.com]

People were under no obligation to come forward to fucking Rants of all people, it's not his business if someone was stalked/molested/taken advantage of/whatever actually happened since I don't know specifics. Maybe they came forward to HOLLY and not some fan on Tumblr. Especially a guy fan.

[freya-sacksen.livejournal.com]

Like I said though - the fact that he put off posting her details until she gave the details was just icky. Especially when Ven had been asked by Holly herself to give the details.

Beyond that, Rants could have easily given the details at the start, it's not like any of that is private information.

[achika-chan.livejournal.com]

Yeah, you're totally right. I have no idea if it was true or not (no one's ever confided anything like that to me) but I error on the side of, you know, actually believing victims. The first thing he should have done was post Holly's contact info.

[emeriin.livejournal.com]

Hey now, don't insult the gender by lumping assholes like him with everyone else.

[achika-chan.livejournal.com]

Ah, sorry. I didn't mean that all guys were assholes. I meant that he was coming from a place of 'male privilege' where sexual assault and things like that are a much more distant threat than to someone of the female persuasion. But you're right, I could have worded that better and I apologize.

[emeriin.livejournal.com]

It's okay, I might have snapped and I apologize. The sixth paragraph of this http://noseriouslywhatabouttehmenz.wordpress.com/2012/02/18/human-rights-abuses-and-prison-rape/ just got in my mind today and freaked my wee brain out.

[achika-chan.livejournal.com]

D: That article is horrifying.

[aunt-zelda.livejournal.com]

That part REALLY bothered me. Yeah, a tumblr full of angry defensive anons is totally the right place to address internet stalking and I'd definately admit to being harassed in front of people who'd flat-out deny my "wild accusations" just because the person harassing me is mildly famous and comes across as so nice in videos ...

Actually, that makes me REALLY angry now, considering what one of my best friends has gone through in her life. There's no better way to get me angry than to start victim-blaming.

I think people say Rants is nice because for the most part he's in charge of this big opinionated mess, and he gets upset and anxious when people are upset because of the blog. It's a pity kind of thing, like, I feel bad that someone who's socially awkward is trying to deal with tricky situations. But at this point it's irresponsible at times, like with the JO thing or the "someone is stalking people" thing. He really shouldn't be in charge of the blog by himself, he takes things too personally and he hasn't learned from past situations.

Can we talk about how much the tgwtgrumors person rocks? 'Cause they make me happy.

[achika-chan.livejournal.com]

Oh yes, I love the Rumor Elf so far! I am in AWE of the research they put into this stuff.

[aunt-zelda.livejournal.com]

I want to give them cookies and hugs and a shiny hat. No really, I would totally do that. Especially the shiny hat.

[achika-chan.livejournal.com]

Well, they ARE an elf...A raptor elf, but still an elf...

[aunt-zelda.livejournal.com]

Wait, do you leave milk out for elves, or was that for brownies? *scratches head*

[achika-chan.livejournal.com]

I'm pretty sure that was Brownies. And you can't tell them 'Thank You'. But then you leave milk and cookies for Santa, and he's an elf, so...I'm just confused now.

[aunt-zelda.livejournal.com]

(I love how many twists and turns this conversation has taken.)

I'm confused too ... I guess I'll stick with cookies and hugs and a shiny hat. Seriously, maybe we should make them a card somehow ...

[achika-chan.livejournal.com]

(LOL me too)

Probably a good idea.

[aunt-zelda.livejournal.com]

(Seriously, putting an issue to rest, to victim-blaming, to being angry at a person for how they handled a situation, to gender issues, to folklore ... it's like the conversations I have a dinner at college all the time! ... speaking of that, I'm hungry ... and it's dinner time ...)

Probably a good idea.
No time now, but maybe someday ... or if someone else gets a card going I'd gladly "sign" ...