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Well, that was lame.

Yeah, just watched the Doctor Who TV movie. That was … campy as hell, but not as bad as I was expecting. I mean, my eyes didn’t burn, but Eric Roberts almost made them! (Seriously, that man? Spawn of Satan, I swear. He just gives off these clouds of evil. Not even good evil, like Ainley!Master, or sexy evil, like Alan Rickman, or skin-crawling evil, like Jeremy Irons’ voice. Just … bad evil.)

Poor Eight. Wish he’d gotten more than that, I loved him! *huggles him*

 

And, whilst watching, I began to jot down some thoughts/reactions/musings, as I am wont to do:

 

 

So … the Master, post-Ex-ter-min-ation, turned into a snake made up of ash and tea? Ewwww …

 

I fell in love with Grace the minute we set eyes on her, because she was crying at the Opera. That’s something I do. *huggles her*

 

Buwuh? Someone is MARRIED to Eric Roberts?! Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwww! That’s even grosser than when that ghost-snake jumped down his throat!

 

I do not appreciate the Frankenstein’s Monster/Doctor Who regeneration parallel. That is just lame.

Paul McGann is hot.

 

The morgue-guy’s reaction to Paul McGann wrapped in a sheet materializes in front of him is to faint. What a fangirl …

 

Sooo … the Doctor’s been striking Jesus-poses LONG before Ten!

 

*sporfles* The Scarf makes a cameo … of sorts.

 

Oooooo … I am LOVING that green coat! (What is my issue, here, I love Ten’s coat, I love Nine’s coat, and now I love Eight’s coat … no danger of my loving Six’s coat, though …)

 

“I need the Doctor’s body.”

Oh, now, that is just ASKING for trouble, Mr. Creepy Lips … then again, I doubt even Mr. Jack Harkness would find you attractive, so you can say whatever the hell you want and none of us are gonna touch THAT PAIRING with a thirty-nine-and-a-half-foot pole!

 

*sporfles* “He was wearing a shroud, and a JD tag on his toe.” If the morgue-guy had noted the Eighth Doctor’s epic hotness, mayhaps they would have found him sooner.

 

Poor Eight … wish he’d pop up in the backseat of MY car!

 

I love that Chang’s reaction to the TARDIS-interior is just like everyone else’s: to step out, walk around it, and walk back inside. Tee hee …

 

This is the bestest ‘desktop theme’ yet, in my opinion. I’d totally live there.

 

I love Eight’s little dance about his shoes. So adorable. If only the cheesy music would stop, then I’d be enjoying this so very much …

 

Awwww, poor TARDIS … how come she tries to shake off Jack but lets Chang Lee open doors all helter-skelter?

 

Woohoo! Eight/Grace kiss FTW!

 

“The planet is about to be destroyed, and I’m stuck in a traffic jam!”

 

And the Master … can spew poison? Or is it Eric Roberts doing that?

 

“He’s … British.” *sporfles* OMG Jellybabies! SQUEE!

 

“Great. I finally meet the right guy and he’s from another planet.”

*sigh* Oh Grace … we all fall in love with the Doctor in some way.

 

“Dr. Grace Holloway and guest.”

Oh, I love parallels! They make me happy inside …

 

“I’m half-human. On my mother’s side.”

Buwhuh? Is that accepted as canon? Is that why the Doctor can only ever regenerate as looking-human? Is that why his first incarnation had only one heart? *headdesk* You’d think the Master would take that knowledge and exploit it every chance he got …

 

Eight is ridiculously good at picking pockets.

 

Heh heh, ‘size’ jokes …

 

The policeman on a motorcycle barreling into the TARDIS …the siren fading into the distance … then speeding right back out again. *sporfles*

 

“We jump-start the TARDIS.” Nawwwwww … I like this!

 

Ok, what the HELL is Eric Roberts wearing?! It’s like Dracula’s cloak gone horribly, horribly WRONG … *sporfles* he looks so ridiculous … and if he and some low-life gang-member can end the universe, I suspect even the Olsen Twins could stop him.

 

Uh … did Eric Roberts just kiss Lee? Euugughgh … not touching THAT ONE either …

 

If only the Master wasn’t Eric Roberts, so campy, and it was he putting the kinky chains on Eight instead of possessed-Grace … *sigh*

 

Wait … after all of that the Doctor was offering his hand to the Master? Huh … and I thought the Forgive-the-Master Campaign was Ten’s schick …

And then the Master was eaten by the Eye of Harmony. Until the Time Lords resurrected him for the Time War.

 

“Come with me.” The Doctor offers to Grace.

You come with me!” she backfires.

Me, come with you?” he says, showing a flicker of Ten’s perpetual-bemusement already.

For some inexplicable reason, she does not go off with the Doctor, nor does he stay with her. *sigh* Ah well …

 

Nawwww … an ending much like Serenity!

 

 

 

 

 

(P.S. Does anyone know where I should start with the audio books? Especially the audio books read by Paul McGann?)

Date: 2008-06-24 09:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prettyarbitrary.livejournal.com
EricRoberts!Master is wearing a Time Lord cloak, like the stuffy Time Lords like to wear back on Gallifrey except with bling. Dreadful, isn't it? Still not a patch on Six's fiasco of an outfit.

“I’m half-human. On my mother’s side.”

Buwhuh? Is that accepted as canon? Is that why the Doctor can only ever regenerate as looking-human? Is that why his first incarnation had only one heart? *headdesk* You’d think the Master would take that knowledge and exploit it every chance he got …


Yeop, canon, at least since they made an effort to link the TV movie in with some of the NewWho episodes (note Eight's face among sketches of Doctor-incarnations come and gone in the "Journal of Impossible Things" and also Eric Roberts' voice among the Ainley!Master giggles and whatnot when Professor Yana looks at his watch).

First Doctor only having one heart was simply because they hadn't thought of him having two hearts back then. I think it's been retconned or at least blissfully ignored by all writers since. Except in fanfic, I've never heard another reference to it. the half-human thing may be why so many of the Doctor's regenerations are difficult (if that's not just because he gets himself into so many messes), and the erratic piloting of his TARDIS (though there are indications that's because the Doctor likes chaos and deliberately encourages that kind of behavior).

Far as I know, all his regenerations look human because he regenerates looking like a Time Lord, and Time Lords look human. I suppose they could look like some other alien if they wanted, but I've never seen a Time Lord on the show who did that. They all look human. Well, if you don't count burny!Master. He looked like two eggs cooked sunny-side up with a side of burnt bacon.

Pity about Eric Roberts, though. If you take away the face, he has a really sexy evil!voice. I've heard him do voices in cartoons, and...yeah. Pretty fine. But the mind rebels at the word "sexy" used in connection with Eric Roberts-face, I agree. So, um, sorry about that.

The audio plays? Errrr...your guess is as good as mine on that one. I've been looking for where to start with those for quite some time now. I'm thinking at this point that the thing to do is to just dive on a few whose descriptions sound like a lot of fun or that are recommended as extra-good, and then once you get a feel for things, start working more methodically.

Date: 2008-06-25 02:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aunt-zelda.livejournal.com
Yes, Time Lord cloak sans 'bling' is awful. At least with the bling it's overboard enough to be believable, but without the silly hats it just looks stupid.

Yeop, canon, at least since they made an effort to link the TV movie in with some of the NewWho episodes (note Eight's face among sketches of Doctor-incarnations come and gone in the "Journal of Impossible Things" and also Eric Roberts' voice among the Ainley!Master giggles and whatnot when Professor Yana looks at his watch).
Huh ... I'm gonna twist that to suit my fancy. It doesn't make much sense for the Doctor to be half-human, despite the fact that he appears to be assimilating into human-culture presently. I believe that is a reaction to not having a home anymore, like immigrants. He can't very well live in 'Gallifrey Town' so he's taking on human behaviors. Which is why whenever he breaks out into 'Oncoming Storm' mode it's so terrifying, and it seems like he's two different people.
(God, I've missed out philosophical discussions on the Doctor ...)

I kinda knew about One's heart-thing, I was just grasping at straws.

the half-human thing may be why so many of the Doctor's regenerations are difficult
The Master's latest regeneration was made to look exactly like Nine's into Ten ... but following your theory, that was that because Yana's body was human.

and the erratic piloting of his TARDIS (though there are indications that's because the Doctor likes chaos and deliberately encourages that kind of behavior).
That's the Doctor! Necessary force of Chaos! Trickster! 'The Fool' in the Tarot deck!

I wonder why Gallifreyans look human. *ponders*

Yes, Eric Roberts, if we forget he looks like Eric Roberts, has the potential for a very seductive voice. But his lips ... they are evil ... *hides under the desk, rummaging about for my katana*

Date: 2008-07-01 02:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prettyarbitrary.livejournal.com
Considering the time differential of their evolutions, what you should probably be asking is "Why do humans look Gallifreyan?" :)

I agree with you about the Doctor's adoption of human ways and his reasons for it. Physically half-human or not, I'm sure that's a big reason for a lot of it. And it does create a startling dichotomy between his usual fuzzball self and OMGDoctor'sGonnaEatMe! Which I give them points for. That's a successful technique.

If you meant the actual physical look of the regeneration scene, that changed every single time in Old Who. I think that's just an effect of New Who trying to standardize it a bit more...and, y'know, having a bigger budget and access to better s/fx. I think there's a fair amount of "It never looked like that before!" that's settled firmly into "don't ask" territory because we can simply do fancier things with computers these days.

Date: 2008-07-01 03:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aunt-zelda.livejournal.com
Considering the time differential of their evolutions, what you should probably be asking is "Why do humans look Gallifreyan?" :)
Ooooooooooooooooo ... you're right! *shivers*

I agree with you about the Doctor's adoption of human ways and his reasons for it. Physically half-human or not, I'm sure that's a big reason for a lot of it. And it does create a startling dichotomy between his usual fuzzball self and OMGDoctor'sGonnaEatMe! Which I give them points for. That's a successful technique.
*nodnod* It's much scarier when he goes all Oncoming-Storm on someone's ass when he's usually endearingly ADHD ...

I think there's a fair amount of "It never looked like that before!" that's settled firmly into "don't ask" territory because we can simply do fancier things with computers these days.
Yeah, for that I am grateful, though ...
Still, I was wondering if the people in the 'The Doctor is HALF-HUMAN!' camp picked up on the fact that when the Master (who was human) regenerated, it looked exactly like Nine;s (who they would claim was half-human) regeneration.

Date: 2008-06-24 10:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yo-mawari.livejournal.com
I can telll you about the half-human thing, it's on the BBC Doctor Who website (in the FAQ). They say that the Doctor is half human, but purists tend to disregard this. I, like many others, think that just Eight is half-human dur to his weird regeneration. ^_^

I can't help you with the audiobooks, but if you like the Eighth Doctor than you should read the Eighth Doctor Adventure Novels (EDAs). They're fantastic!

He gets himself wonderful companions, inclusing Fitz - whom I absolutely love to death. (The slash possibilities between him and the Doctor are surprisingly high, the Doctor kisses him, he admits to wanting to sleep with the Doctor, and they switch personalities for a time [which includes a naked-bum touching scene]).

I have around some .pdfs of the EDAs if you want...

Date: 2008-06-25 02:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aunt-zelda.livejournal.com
I think if the Doctor really WAS half-human, he wouldn't be so distraught about Gallifrey going boom. Because if he was half-human, in his mind, he'd have half his past still alive and kicking. Besides, if he was half-human, wouldn't the Master have really ridiculed him for being a 'half-breed' or something?
Personally I think the Doctor has just adopted Earth and humans in general because he likes us. He keeps snogging girls because humans are beginning to rub off on him, and he's beginning to assimilate because he's lost his culture.
At least, that's how I see it. I ramble when I stay up too late.

SLASHY COMPANION?! GIMME GIMME! (Just a few, though, if I really love them I'm totally gonna buy them ...)

Date: 2008-06-25 02:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yo-mawari.livejournal.com
I uploaded a few in one .zip file here.

The Taint - When You first meet Fitz
Halflife - Very good, the first one I read, but it may be better once you get a handle on the characters
Escape Velocity - When You meet Anji, another Companion
The City of the Dead/To The Slaughter - Two random adventures

I just ordered two of the 'best' ones, myself. They're remarkably hard to find offline, and if you find them online you can only buy them used (so not fair, how did they go out of print already?!). Anyway, I hope you like them!! ^_^

Date: 2008-06-25 02:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aunt-zelda.livejournal.com
ZOMG thank you! (Used is good, it means cheap! Then again, out of print is awful, it makes me feel like I need to buy it right now or they'll fall into a black hole or something ...)

Oh, I forgot to tell you, good luck with those slash awards!

Date: 2008-06-25 02:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yo-mawari.livejournal.com
(Used is good, it means cheap! Then again, out of print is awful, it makes me feel like I need to buy it right now or they'll fall into a black hole or something ...)
Yeah, they range anywhere from ten dollars to over thirty, because most of them need to be imported.

Oh, I forgot to tell you, good luck with those slash awards!
Thanks! ^_^

Date: 2008-06-25 03:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aunt-zelda.livejournal.com
*sigh* International shipping-and-handling, the bane of the American anglophile.

Wish I had YOUR time ... *drowning in notes, scheduled for a shot, and haven't written a sentence in my novel because I've been writing half-assed Remus/Fenrir*

Date: 2008-06-25 02:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sadiane.livejournal.com
I am totally out of the non-Torchwood Dr. Who loop, but you might want to check out [community profile] audiobooks for, well, audiobooks. It's locked, but the membership is open, so you just have to join.

There should even be some Dr. Who. books on the front page.

Date: 2008-06-25 02:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aunt-zelda.livejournal.com
Huh, well, I'll check that out if I get the chance ...
Thanks!

Date: 2008-06-26 04:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phoenixjustice.livejournal.com
hee hee! <3 you Zel-chan. Oh and now I have this crack!theory on who Claude really is. Cause Claude isn't his real name, so my crack!theory is that he's the 9th doctor. I mean, we don't know who he REALLY is and I know that it isn't plausible, but it's a good crack!theory =P

Date: 2008-06-26 07:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aunt-zelda.livejournal.com
Yeppers! Claude = the Doctor because THEY CAN'T PROVE IT OTHERWISE! (+ Eric Roberts = Thompson, and Eric Roberts was the Master in the lame TV movie, so it's highly plausible!)
Also, Claude said 'FanTASTIC!' just like Nine!
It's quite a popular theory. It's actually what got me hooked on DW, because everyone was blathering on that Claude (one of my fav characters) was 'the Doctor.'

Date: 2008-06-26 07:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phoenixjustice.livejournal.com
YEAH! I love Simm!Master best. XD

I KNOW!! When I realized that I squeed. XP

Oh yeah? I actually didn't know about the theory. =O

Date: 2008-06-27 01:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aunt-zelda.livejournal.com
Eric Roberts is the only exception, though, because Ainley and Delgado were FANTASTIC: Delgado had sketchy old-man chemistry with Three (and SWORDFIGHTS OMG) and Ainley was just ... GUH. Two words: LEATHER GLOVES.

When I re-watched it, having watched DW, I squeed.

Well, it might be a joking, theory, or not ... *shrugs* who are we to judge? Crossovers are the best!

Date: 2008-06-27 02:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phoenixjustice.livejournal.com
Seriously? I'll have to look into that. Anyway, do you think you might know where I could find a transcript of the movie? It's the only thing I couldn't find yesterday. I got series 1-3 transcripts(and all of the specials) as well as series 4 up to like Turn Back except for Midnight) and I'm going to start reading series 1 today. Reading the transcripts will definitely help me, it'll let me catch up AND see teh awesomeness. XD

Crossovers FTW!

Date: 2008-06-27 05:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aunt-zelda.livejournal.com
I've never read transcripts myself, I'm only half-sure of what they are. Sorry, PJ-kun, I dunno where you'd find transcripts of the TV movie ... *very inept at such things*

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