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aunt_zeldaThese are the sudden impulse thoughts that came to mind as I was watching. Not a full recap, just random yelling and squeeing and freaking out and blue-screening. It's incomprehensible at times.
After the episode I was crying and sobbing and hurting in my soul. Luckily I posted to Facebook about having just seen the episode and how I was crying, and one of my friends asked if I wanted to hang out and geek talk, so I went down and had hot chocolate with him and we talked about the episode and the season and Sherlock and Moriarity and John and Irene and the character of Moriarty in all kinds of things and Doctor Who and anime Boston and superheroes and villains and the Sandman comics and books we're going to trade to each other and relationships and friends and stuff. It was hours. And I felt much better, no longer upset or sobbing or hurting in my soul. Still a little freaked out about the episode, but the kind of freak out I can deal with. Until I see it again and talk to more people.I can use this as a conversation starter with That Girl I Like A Lot, because talking with people about stuff you both enjoy is a great way to warm up to the inevitable "so, do you like girls ...?" conversation.
So, yeah, my thoughts on the episode look pretty frantic, but don't worry, I'm fine now. I feel much better, I'm back at college, all unpacked, and ready for bed. Sleepy and exhausted.
Tomorrow I'll go for a walk, get things in order for classes on Tuesday, eat some food, and hopefully hang out with lots of my friends and talk about the episode some more. And maybe, just maybe, have a conversation with That Girl I Like A Lot.
Thoughts on the episode:
Last episode he psychologically tortured John for science.
Now Sherlock is going to make John believe he's dead.
Sherlock is a horrible horrible person!!!
That Hat will never get old. And LOL, Sally and Anderson and Lestrade smirking at each other about the Hat!
("The Adventures of Hat-Man and Robin" is my favorite show.)
"Confirmed Bachelor" oh John, just come out already, the world wants you to be out and proud!
When are we going to move away from the cliche of "only evil people crick their necks/hands/etc." It is getting really freaking old. Seriously. *cracks knuckles*
Ahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaaaaa!!!
Oh gods, Moriarty, WHY SO AWESOME? AND CAMP? AND WONDERFUL?
Oooooo, the montage to an awesome song that I watched constantly since yesterday. Sweetness!
Jewel Thief Moriarty and Neal Caffrey need to have hot prison sex right the fuck now.
Dude, I would kill to be the person who feeds Jim Moriarty gum.
I got wicked excited because I thought the fake fangirl in the bathroom was Sebastian Moran. And then she wasn't. *glares*
Bahahahaa, at least Sherlock lasted longer in court than Sheldon Cooper did!
Everything Moriarty says, and every silly face he makes … I love.
"I just love to watch them compete 'Daddy loves ME best' aren't ordinary people adorable?"
UNF …
"Oh, right, you've got John … I should get myself a live-in one …"
A million fanfics can't be wrong! (Also, don't you already have Sebastian? WHERE IS MORAN!??!?!?!??! I DEMAND MORAN!!!!!!!!)
Apples … symbolism … FoeYay … dying of joy …
Bahahahahhaaa, John babbling in the Diogenes Club!!! YAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!
Is one of the assassins Sebastian Moran? If not, I DON'T CARE!!!!!!!!!
Mycroft has a truly epic scowl. It is the fiercest thing ever. Srsly.
John, did you just open an envelope of anthrax? John, would you go for a large piece of cheese on a man-sized mousetrap too?
YAAAAAAAAAY, Molly!
… Sherlock, don't trivialize the fact that she and Jim kinda sorta dated for a while. She was USED by a PSYCHOPATH who BLEW PEOPLE UP. That will never be funny, not even when Molly is standing over Moriarty's bruised and bloody body holding a loaded gun and shooting him in the knees. Then it will only be mildly amusing.
Then we have a touching scene that almost brought me to tears and made me want to weep kittens. Molly notices that Sherlock "looks sad" when he thinks John can't see him looking sad, and said "I don't count" … and my heart broke. And then Sherlock won back all the points he lost from me by looking shocked and stunned at her saying "I don't count" and she offers to be there for him if he needs anything, even if he doesn't need anything, and I weep kittens and Sherlock looks pensive. You'd better give her more than a peck on the cheek this time, dude. Try hugging. It's what people who want to be nice do to people who are nice to them.
And maybe have her help you fake your death? [Edit: I did not know that was going to happen, I swear, I typed this as I was watching! Uncanny!]
Sherlock grinned and said "neat" about someone kidnapping two kids and poising them with mercury-laced candy. Excuse me while I hide under the bed right now. Forever.
Oh gods. Now the kid is screaming at Sherlock, and Sally thinks it's "unbelievable" that Sherlock was able to trace them from that footprint with his SCIENCE SENSE. Now everyone's gonna think Sherlock is evil and constructing crimes. His reputation will be gone. Moriarty will burn him by destroying his reputation. I could quote Othello right now, which is a play all about reputation and honor and stuff, but I'm too sleepy and I want to keep watching right now and not search for the exact quote. (Cassio says it, though.) [Edit: whoa, I'm too genre savvy for my own good …]
Sherlock wins more points by forcing John to take the next cab. "People might talk" … yeah, not about you two being gay, but about John being in on the kidnappings. Sherlock knows. Sherlock's trying to protect his friend. *wibbles*
Oh gods … I hate being right … I hate being right … Sherlock, you shouldn't have been such a dick to Donovan and Anderson and Lestrade all those times, then they wouldn't have believed you were EVIL so easily.
Oh great, now Sebastian just shot some random dude you were shaking hands with. AND WE DIDN'T GET TO SEE HIM!
We're fifty minutes in and all we've seen of Moran is bullets. MAYBE. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!
I love Mrs. Hudson's shrinking-shoulders reaction to being told there are cameras in the apartment. It's exactly how a normal person would react to that: "Oh gods, I've been naked in here, and I've danced around putting the dishes away to Ke$ha, AND SOME EVIL BASTARD HAS IT ALL ON TAPE! I NEED TO GO DIE NOW!!!"
Ooooooo, I love/hate this "watch Sherlock fall and his reputation erode" thing.
"This is my hostage!" *points gun at John*
BAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!
BHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHAHHAAHHAHAHA!!!
*wheezes, sporfles, and dies*
They are handcuffed to each other, holding hands, and on the run from the law. Also, there were buckets of FoeYay this episode. Have I died and gone to fangirl heaven? *looks around for my boyfriend, the two girls I have crushes on, and that crazy guy I like* … nope, not heaven! Close enough for now, though! *basks*
What is it with Moriarty hanging around with women and being adorable with them? Mmmmm, looks like he just rolled outta bed, that hair … *swoons*
Oh, he's an actor Sherlock hired? Greeeeeeaaaaaaaat, add that to the list of many, many, MANY iterations the character of Moriarty has gone through, been rumored to have been, or has been. There's a great list as a footnote in "Professor Moriarty: the Hound of the D'Urbervilles" that made me laugh a lot.
Actor!Moriarty is on kid's tv? I'll bet his shows have HUGE followings outside the target demographic … mostly of the perverted teenage girl, gay men, and lonely mother crowds.
Loving Moriarty's subtle little smirks at Sherlock behind the journalist's back. And How Sherlock goes completely insane and animalistic and enraged. It's fantastic.
Sherlock, if you are playing Molly by saying "You do count. You've always counted. I've always trusted you. But you're right, I'm not ok" … you are the biggest asshole in modern media and I will have to punch through the Fourth Wall to kick your teeth in … to start with.
"Molly, I think I'm going to die." Yeah, your reputation is ruined, that's death of your personal character. You physically won't die, but metaphysically … oooooo, this is clever!
SHERLOCK IF YOU KILL MOLLY I WILL KILL YOU AND STEVEN MOFFAT AND MARK GATISS AND THE ENTIRE BBC NETWORK WITH MY BARE HANDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Also, Mycroft is an asshole. And he fucked-up. What else is new? Didn't he learn his lesson from The Woman? I guess not … give him some good smacks tonight, Not!Anthea …
Can I just say that I love John in this episode? I always love him, but I love him especially right now, getting angry at Mycroft and protecting Sherlock because NOBODY ELSE WILL PROTECT THE MAN. AND HE HAS TO PROTECT SHERLOCK FROM HIMSELF LIKE ALL THE TIME.
Oh gods … Sherlock just used his Asshole Powers to get John safely away from the hospital so Moriarty can't get to him.
Jim is bored. A bored psychopath is the most dangerous thing ever. He is AMAZING in this scene, the voices, the movements, the LINES … adlkfjalfjaslfjaslfjaslfjalsjflasjflasj
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"My suicide."
Oh Jesus no …
John's face when he realizes that Sherlock drove him away with the fake Mrs. Hudson story is heartbreaking.
"Your only three friends will die."
You forgot someone Jim. Jim? Jimmy? You forgot someone. You fucked-up. You got stupid. YOU FORGOT ABOUT MOLLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I screamed. I screamed. I screamed. MORIARTY NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
EVEN THE POTENTIAL SEBASTIAN MORAN DID NOT MAKE ME STOP SCREAMING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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And then my brain just … stopped. And I was crying a little. And mostly just feeling sick and not breathing. And then … he … and he was CRYING and … and … and John and … blood and so much blood and …
Molly did something. She must have. She did something for him and somehow he's not dead. He'd not dead.
I hurt in my soul.
John at the grave … I just broke down. I'm crying and sobbing and hurting in my soul and auuuuuuuuuuuuuugggghhhh ….
Oh, Sherlock is alive after all. Hurting too much from the emotional turmoil to care very much. Of course he was alive. Molly did … something. Somehow. Cloned him, made him a Time Lord or a zombie or immortal or something.
That doesn't take away the pain, the CRYING from SHERLOCK and JOHN and the lies and MORIARTY IS DEAD and there was no Sebastian Moran but I barely even care because I'm sobbing and hurting in my soul ...
After the episode I was crying and sobbing and hurting in my soul. Luckily I posted to Facebook about having just seen the episode and how I was crying, and one of my friends asked if I wanted to hang out and geek talk, so I went down and had hot chocolate with him and we talked about the episode and the season and Sherlock and Moriarity and John and Irene and the character of Moriarty in all kinds of things and Doctor Who and anime Boston and superheroes and villains and the Sandman comics and books we're going to trade to each other and relationships and friends and stuff. It was hours. And I felt much better, no longer upset or sobbing or hurting in my soul. Still a little freaked out about the episode, but the kind of freak out I can deal with. Until I see it again and talk to more people.
So, yeah, my thoughts on the episode look pretty frantic, but don't worry, I'm fine now. I feel much better, I'm back at college, all unpacked, and ready for bed. Sleepy and exhausted.
Tomorrow I'll go for a walk, get things in order for classes on Tuesday, eat some food, and hopefully hang out with lots of my friends and talk about the episode some more. And maybe, just maybe, have a conversation with That Girl I Like A Lot.
Thoughts on the episode:
Last episode he psychologically tortured John for science.
Now Sherlock is going to make John believe he's dead.
Sherlock is a horrible horrible person!!!
That Hat will never get old. And LOL, Sally and Anderson and Lestrade smirking at each other about the Hat!
("The Adventures of Hat-Man and Robin" is my favorite show.)
"Confirmed Bachelor" oh John, just come out already, the world wants you to be out and proud!
When are we going to move away from the cliche of "only evil people crick their necks/hands/etc." It is getting really freaking old. Seriously. *cracks knuckles*
Ahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaaaaa!!!
Oh gods, Moriarty, WHY SO AWESOME? AND CAMP? AND WONDERFUL?
Oooooo, the montage to an awesome song that I watched constantly since yesterday. Sweetness!
Jewel Thief Moriarty and Neal Caffrey need to have hot prison sex right the fuck now.
Dude, I would kill to be the person who feeds Jim Moriarty gum.
I got wicked excited because I thought the fake fangirl in the bathroom was Sebastian Moran. And then she wasn't. *glares*
Bahahahaa, at least Sherlock lasted longer in court than Sheldon Cooper did!
Everything Moriarty says, and every silly face he makes … I love.
"I just love to watch them compete 'Daddy loves ME best' aren't ordinary people adorable?"
UNF …
"Oh, right, you've got John … I should get myself a live-in one …"
A million fanfics can't be wrong! (Also, don't you already have Sebastian? WHERE IS MORAN!??!?!?!??! I DEMAND MORAN!!!!!!!!)
Apples … symbolism … FoeYay … dying of joy …
Bahahahahhaaa, John babbling in the Diogenes Club!!! YAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!
Is one of the assassins Sebastian Moran? If not, I DON'T CARE!!!!!!!!!
Mycroft has a truly epic scowl. It is the fiercest thing ever. Srsly.
John, did you just open an envelope of anthrax? John, would you go for a large piece of cheese on a man-sized mousetrap too?
YAAAAAAAAAY, Molly!
… Sherlock, don't trivialize the fact that she and Jim kinda sorta dated for a while. She was USED by a PSYCHOPATH who BLEW PEOPLE UP. That will never be funny, not even when Molly is standing over Moriarty's bruised and bloody body holding a loaded gun and shooting him in the knees. Then it will only be mildly amusing.
Then we have a touching scene that almost brought me to tears and made me want to weep kittens. Molly notices that Sherlock "looks sad" when he thinks John can't see him looking sad, and said "I don't count" … and my heart broke. And then Sherlock won back all the points he lost from me by looking shocked and stunned at her saying "I don't count" and she offers to be there for him if he needs anything, even if he doesn't need anything, and I weep kittens and Sherlock looks pensive. You'd better give her more than a peck on the cheek this time, dude. Try hugging. It's what people who want to be nice do to people who are nice to them.
And maybe have her help you fake your death? [Edit: I did not know that was going to happen, I swear, I typed this as I was watching! Uncanny!]
Sherlock grinned and said "neat" about someone kidnapping two kids and poising them with mercury-laced candy. Excuse me while I hide under the bed right now. Forever.
Oh gods. Now the kid is screaming at Sherlock, and Sally thinks it's "unbelievable" that Sherlock was able to trace them from that footprint with his SCIENCE SENSE. Now everyone's gonna think Sherlock is evil and constructing crimes. His reputation will be gone. Moriarty will burn him by destroying his reputation. I could quote Othello right now, which is a play all about reputation and honor and stuff, but I'm too sleepy and I want to keep watching right now and not search for the exact quote. (Cassio says it, though.) [Edit: whoa, I'm too genre savvy for my own good …]
Sherlock wins more points by forcing John to take the next cab. "People might talk" … yeah, not about you two being gay, but about John being in on the kidnappings. Sherlock knows. Sherlock's trying to protect his friend. *wibbles*
Oh gods … I hate being right … I hate being right … Sherlock, you shouldn't have been such a dick to Donovan and Anderson and Lestrade all those times, then they wouldn't have believed you were EVIL so easily.
Oh great, now Sebastian just shot some random dude you were shaking hands with. AND WE DIDN'T GET TO SEE HIM!
We're fifty minutes in and all we've seen of Moran is bullets. MAYBE. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!
I love Mrs. Hudson's shrinking-shoulders reaction to being told there are cameras in the apartment. It's exactly how a normal person would react to that: "Oh gods, I've been naked in here, and I've danced around putting the dishes away to Ke$ha, AND SOME EVIL BASTARD HAS IT ALL ON TAPE! I NEED TO GO DIE NOW!!!"
Ooooooo, I love/hate this "watch Sherlock fall and his reputation erode" thing.
"This is my hostage!" *points gun at John*
BAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!
BHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHAHHAAHHAHAHA!!!
*wheezes, sporfles, and dies*
They are handcuffed to each other, holding hands, and on the run from the law. Also, there were buckets of FoeYay this episode. Have I died and gone to fangirl heaven? *looks around for my boyfriend, the two girls I have crushes on, and that crazy guy I like* … nope, not heaven! Close enough for now, though! *basks*
What is it with Moriarty hanging around with women and being adorable with them? Mmmmm, looks like he just rolled outta bed, that hair … *swoons*
Oh, he's an actor Sherlock hired? Greeeeeeaaaaaaaat, add that to the list of many, many, MANY iterations the character of Moriarty has gone through, been rumored to have been, or has been. There's a great list as a footnote in "Professor Moriarty: the Hound of the D'Urbervilles" that made me laugh a lot.
Actor!Moriarty is on kid's tv? I'll bet his shows have HUGE followings outside the target demographic … mostly of the perverted teenage girl, gay men, and lonely mother crowds.
Loving Moriarty's subtle little smirks at Sherlock behind the journalist's back. And How Sherlock goes completely insane and animalistic and enraged. It's fantastic.
Sherlock, if you are playing Molly by saying "You do count. You've always counted. I've always trusted you. But you're right, I'm not ok" … you are the biggest asshole in modern media and I will have to punch through the Fourth Wall to kick your teeth in … to start with.
"Molly, I think I'm going to die." Yeah, your reputation is ruined, that's death of your personal character. You physically won't die, but metaphysically … oooooo, this is clever!
SHERLOCK IF YOU KILL MOLLY I WILL KILL YOU AND STEVEN MOFFAT AND MARK GATISS AND THE ENTIRE BBC NETWORK WITH MY BARE HANDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Also, Mycroft is an asshole. And he fucked-up. What else is new? Didn't he learn his lesson from The Woman? I guess not … give him some good smacks tonight, Not!Anthea …
Can I just say that I love John in this episode? I always love him, but I love him especially right now, getting angry at Mycroft and protecting Sherlock because NOBODY ELSE WILL PROTECT THE MAN. AND HE HAS TO PROTECT SHERLOCK FROM HIMSELF LIKE ALL THE TIME.
Oh gods … Sherlock just used his Asshole Powers to get John safely away from the hospital so Moriarty can't get to him.
Jim is bored. A bored psychopath is the most dangerous thing ever. He is AMAZING in this scene, the voices, the movements, the LINES … adlkfjalfjaslfjaslfjaslfjalsjflasjflasj
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"My suicide."
Oh Jesus no …
John's face when he realizes that Sherlock drove him away with the fake Mrs. Hudson story is heartbreaking.
"Your only three friends will die."
You forgot someone Jim. Jim? Jimmy? You forgot someone. You fucked-up. You got stupid. YOU FORGOT ABOUT MOLLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I screamed. I screamed. I screamed. MORIARTY NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
EVEN THE POTENTIAL SEBASTIAN MORAN DID NOT MAKE ME STOP SCREAMING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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And then my brain just … stopped. And I was crying a little. And mostly just feeling sick and not breathing. And then … he … and he was CRYING and … and … and John and … blood and so much blood and …
Molly did something. She must have. She did something for him and somehow he's not dead. He'd not dead.
I hurt in my soul.
John at the grave … I just broke down. I'm crying and sobbing and hurting in my soul and auuuuuuuuuuuuuugggghhhh ….
Oh, Sherlock is alive after all. Hurting too much from the emotional turmoil to care very much. Of course he was alive. Molly did … something. Somehow. Cloned him, made him a Time Lord or a zombie or immortal or something.
That doesn't take away the pain, the CRYING from SHERLOCK and JOHN and the lies and MORIARTY IS DEAD and there was no Sebastian Moran but I barely even care because I'm sobbing and hurting in my soul ...
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Date: 2012-01-25 05:43 am (UTC)SIB -Sherlock never punch someone that's been in the Army.
HOB -Sherlock since when did you turned into Dr. Insano experimenting on John? Oh....wait
RF -Oh no poor Sherlock poor John, they all need cookies. Damn you ATG...err...I mean Moriarty!
All of the episodes of Sherlock are awesome and funny.
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Date: 2012-01-25 04:40 pm (UTC)Lol, I enjoyed that bit far too much!
HOB -Sherlock since when did you turned into Dr. Insano experimenting on John? Oh....wait
That scared me so much! I mean, yeah, Sherlock tried to make up for it during the rest of the episode, but ... you don't fucking gaslight someone like that! John should have LEFT HIM after that. The sheer calmness with which Sherlock did that, the mock-concern ... *shudders* It makes my skin crawl. It makes me want to hide under the bed, where the sociopaths can't find me.
RF -Oh no poor Sherlock poor John, they all need cookies.
Yes, yes they do. Especially Molly.
Damn you ATG...err...I mean Moriarty!
Lol! Now there's a crossover we need yesterday!
All of the episodes of Sherlock are awesome and funny.
God yes!
(Was gonna send a note, but this journal…) 8D
Date: 2012-01-25 05:48 am (UTC)…Ahem. Anyway.
JIM, NO! Why make me love you ("I'm Mr. Sex." DUDE! Just stop!) and then make yourself die?! Noes! [waterworks]
(Okay, yeah, sure, I sort of spoiled the fact that he ended up dying from a bullet to the mouth thanks to me accidentally seeing a split-second gif of that, but I still squeaked in horror when I finally saw the ep and realized that he shot HIMSELF out of nowhere. I mean, fuck.) D':
And maybe have her help you fake your death? [Edit: I did not know that was going to happen, I swear, I typed this as I was watching! Uncanny!]
That was actually a theory that was going around Tumblr about a week or so before TRF aired, along with the idea that Molly probably wasn't going to survive the episode.
Now everyone's gonna think Sherlock is evil and constructing crimes.
I sort of knew that the plot was going to revolve around Sherlock's reputation getting tarnished by Jim due to some spoilers that were posted on Tumblr, but yeah, I immediately felt absolute dread as soon as that girl screamed… o_o
"I'm just, uh…"
"My hostage!" XD
Also, Mycroft is an asshole. And he fucked-up.
Oh yeah, I really got pissed at him this episode. Damn, this season really made him so cold, and he screwed up real badly a few times this time around. Almost makes me wish that I'm right with my theory that the only one that would probably know Sherlock's alive is Molly. (But then again, that'd screw with this theory I have on how he survived, so…)
YOU FORGOT ABOUT MOLLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
More like just underestimated her usefulness. Plus, he didn't know about Sherlock making amends with her…
I screamed. I screamed. I screamed. MORIARTY NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
…I just went dead silent for ten seconds, and my sister literally got freaked out when all I did was squeak out, "…Jim?"
…WE NEED SOMETHING HAPPY!! D'X
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http://naomi-hansen.tumblr.com/post/15961998739/dark-matter-heart-best-advice-i-like-this
http://naomi-hansen.tumblr.com/post/15696461608/tanjamaria-seriously-go-to-her-journal
Ah, slightly better…
(By the way, have you heard about this yet? http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118048757.html?cmpid=RSS%7CNews%7CTVNews)
Re: (Was gonna send a note, but this journal…) 8D
Date: 2012-01-25 04:38 pm (UTC)Ahahahahahaa, Jim is so fabulous. It's like Sylar and the Master and the JOker all rolled into one little psychotic adorable camp man. I would literally kill to be the one to feed him his gum! *squees and swoons*
and then make yourself die?! Noes! [waterworks]
I am so upset about that. I mean, really, HE WAS MY FAVORITE AND YOU KILLED HIM??!!!??!?!?!?!? NOOOOOOOOOO!!!! I mean, yeah, they built up him having a kind of existential crisis and dealing with Sherlock and then being all "oh, you are me ..." and kinda transferring himself to Sherlock so there was nothing left of HIM in his body so of course he shot himself because he wasn't himself anymore ... but NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! I wanted him to survive! I'll have to do what I always do when something like this happens: read epic AU fanfic where he lives!
I actually managed to avoid spoilers, because besides going through backlogs of the Kink Meme, I'm not in the online Sherlock fandom like at all.
"I'm just, uh…"
"My hostage!" XD
That was PERFECTION. What was Sherlock's plan if John didn't punch that asshole and get handcuffed to Sherlock, anyway? Grab Lestrade?
Oh gods, fanfic ... nooooooooo!Oh yeah, I really got pissed at him this episode. Damn, this season really made him so cold, and he screwed up real badly a few times this time around.
Why you break everything, Mycroft? Stupid Umbrella Man!
Then again, it makes sense for his character. The stuff with Irene showed him how dangerous it can be to let his emotions (i.e. caring about his brother) control him, so he did a complete 180 to letting information matter more than keeping Sherlock safe. And that cost him his brother. To be fair, he looks pretty shaken up about it, but he still prioritized information/secrets over his own brother's life.
Almost makes me wish that I'm right with my theory that the only one that would probably know Sherlock's alive is Molly.
I really hope that is the case. Well, Molly, and then the homeless network I expect (he's been good to them, they'd help him out/not care about the papers/not believe the papers) and SEBASTIAN FUCKING MORAN. And the remnants of Moriarty's people that Sherlock goes around horribly murdering for years.
(But then again, that'd screw with this theory I have on how he survived, so…)
Oooooo, what's your theory? I haven't really got a theory, just a bunch of random ideas brainstormed with friends over the past week.
More like just underestimated her usefulness. Plus, he didn't know about Sherlock making amends with her…
I thought it was very telling when Sherlock listed "friends" that Moriarty had posted assassins on, and Sherlock left Molly out so as to not put her in danger, and Moriarty forgot about her. That worked to their advantage, that Moriarty forgot Molly. *glomps Molly* Molly wins!
…I just went dead silent for ten seconds, and my sister literally got freaked out when all I did was squeak out, "…Jim?"
Auuuuuuw! *hugs you* It all happened so fast that I just screamed and then there was a lot of crying because of what Sherlock had to do. When I watched it again, with my friends, we were all pretty stunned.
At one point, the guy who'd seen the whole series for the first time that day had said nothing all day during the episodes (the rest of us were chuckling and asking questions and speculating and making pervy jokes) but he was silent. Until Sherlock jumped. Then my friend Brad said "... no! Noooooooo!" It was funny in a sad kind of way.
…WE NEED SOMETHING HAPPY!! D'X
Those certainly are some happy pictures! I love how the actors in Sherlock make the most hilarious expressions. It's like they're cartoon characters sometimes, it's epic.
(By the way, have you heard about this yet? http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118048757.html?cmpid=RSS%7CNews%7CTVNews)
dlakfjlasjflaksjflkasjgflasjflasjfklasjl INCOHERENT RAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE!!!!!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! IT'S GONNA BE THE AMERICAN "LIFE ON MARS" ALL OVER AGAIN YOU BASTARDS YOU BASTARDS I WILL PUNCH YOU ALL IN THE FACE YOU BASTARDS LDKFJLSDJFLAJDFLAJFLAJDFLJALFJLAFJLAFJLD
... by which I mean, yes, yes I have heard.
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Date: 2012-01-28 09:54 pm (UTC)I would literally kill to be the one to feed him his gum!
Oh god… My sister had to snap me out of my wide-eyed, hysterical shock/amazement/trance at that part. It didn't help that for some reason, she felt that she missed something due to my squeeing and just kept rewinding the episode. I'm surprised that she didn't try gagging me. XD
…they built up him having a kind of existential crisis and dealing with Sherlock and then being all "oh, you are me ..." and kinda transferring himself to Sherlock so there was nothing left of HIM in his body so of course he shot himself because he wasn't himself anymore ...
…Well. I certainly think of it that way. I mainly believed that one of the reasons that he (possibly) did that was because he just didn't want Sherlock to have any way out of the situation he was in.
SEBASTIAN FUCKING MORAN.
I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE HIM! I wonder how he finds out about Sherlock being alive. You know, if he does find out.
Oooooo, what's your theory?
Well, I think that by now, everyone's heard of the conveniently-placed-truck-next to-Bart's-with-human-sized-trash-bags-in-it idea, so I'll just cut to the part where Mycroft might be involved: When you see Sherlock crash onto the pavement, you have less than a second to see that when he lands, the sidewalk looks suspiciously deserted of people, then they just appear out of nowhere when you get the arial shot of the street. Kind of odd, considering that there were people down there, walking around, when Sherlock and Jim were on the roof. One person has said that the street was probably cleared thanks to Mycroft, and that the people that suddenly came running out to crowd around Sherlock's body and kept John away from him were most likely working for him in some way. A lot of people are saying that those people are actually Sherlock's homeless network, but really, there's no way that the network has clothes like the ones those people were wearing.
Then my friend Brad said "... no! Noooooooo!"
ROFL! Oh, I'd be cracking up so badly at a reaction like that if I was there.
I take a lot of my content feelings by seeing people angst over something.By the way, speaking of hilarious expressions on the show, this basically sums it up: http://sherlockfandomrules.tumblr.com/post/16356083087/rule-25-the-sherlock-stars-make-the-best
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! IT'S GONNA BE THE AMERICAN "LIFE ON MARS" ALL OVER AGAIN YOU BASTARDS YOU BASTARDS I WILL PUNCH YOU ALL IN THE FACE YOU BASTARDS LDKFJLSDJFLAJDFLAJFLAJDFLJALFJLAFJLAFJLD
Coincidentally, I stumbled across the Life on Mars (UK version) article on TV Tropes (take a wild guess as to which actor's page I was on before that), and I was suddenly reminded of when the American version was being advertised when I was starting high school. Didn't know it was
a ripoffa Americanized version of another series, though, until literally an hour ago, mostly because I completely forgot about its existence.But seriously - being set in New York City. What. The. Hell? It's bad enough that this is blatantly being created as a way to cash in on the Sherlock craze and that it's called "Elementary." As much as I love NYC (which, trust me, is a lot - I've been there twice already), I'm very tempted to draw the line right there if I haven't drawn one somewhere already. I usually don't see stuff as blasphemous since I'm a bit of an AU junkie myself, but this… [wishes she wasn't emotionless enough to not cry over it all]
America. Please stop it with the UK ripoffs. It makes you look even worse in my eyes.
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Date: 2012-01-29 01:59 am (UTC)Dude, dude, DUUUUUUUUUUDE! It's not just Ten and Simm!Master, it's every Doctor and Master. We're talkin' DECADES of UST and FoeYay and HoYay and everyone just pretty much accepts that they're totally bitter ex boyfriends and it's beautiful. You're gonna love it. Sherlock and Moriarty in the BBC show were basically built on this idea "oh, people reacted positively to Ten and Simm!Master, let's do that but EVEN MORESO with Sherlock and Jim!"
Oh god… My sister had to snap me out of my wide-eyed, hysterical shock/amazement/trance at that part. It didn't help that for some reason, she felt that she missed something due to my squeeing and just kept rewinding the episode. I'm surprised that she didn't try gagging me. XD
*fans self* I had that same reaction, but most of it was in my head, not outward.
…Well. I certainly think of it that way. I mainly believed that one of the reasons that he (possibly) did that was because he just didn't want Sherlock to have any way out of the situation he was in.
Oh yes, that was most likely a factor as well. "Heh heh ... fuck you Sherlock, you gotta die too!" and "There's no reason for me to keep going anymore ... bye now!"
Some people are speculating that he might have survived. There are ways to shoot yourself in the head and survive if you get immediate medical attention. I'm half hoping he comes back because I love his character ... and half hoping he stays dead because that was a good ending for him. I'd be good with either situation. Though at that point it'd be like "does nobody stay dead on this show? What is it with faking deaths?! Irene, Sherlock, Moriarty, that banker ... everybody fakes their death! Nobody stays dead!" but I wouldn't care because Jim would be back.
I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE HIM! I wonder how he finds out about Sherlock being alive. You know, if he does find out.
ME TOO!!!!! ZOMG HE IS MY FAVORITE!!!!!! I wonder how he'll find out too ... and how they'll handle his character ... and yeah, he's totally gonna find out, he always does, and then the hunt begins for tiger!Sherlock and it will be awesome.
I wonder if Mycroft knows. He might not know ... and that would just hurt so bad if he didn't know, and never got to apologize for selling Sherlock's secrets to Jim.
The crowd of people are mighty suspicious. I think at the very least the guy on the bike was paid by Sherlock (whether he's part of the homeless network or not - Sherlock had hours to get this going) to hit John and disorient him.
ROFL! Oh, I'd be cracking up so badly at a reaction like that if I was there. I take a lot of my content feelings by seeing people angst over something.
It was funny in a sad way. He hadn't spoken all day during 9 hours of tv and he'd barely spoken during the breaks, and we were all like "... does he like this? Is he enjoying this?" and then we talked about that and he DID enjoy the show!
By the way, speaking of hilarious expressions on the show, this basically sums it up: http://sherlockfandomrules.tumblr.com/post/16356083087/rule-25-the-sherlock-stars-make-the-best
Oh yes, so true!
The American Life on Mars makes me RAGE hard. Good god.
Why must everything be set in NYC? NYC is cool, yeah, but there's other cities in the US. It's a pretty big place, after all. NYC gets boring after a while.
America. Please stop it with the UK ripoffs. It makes you look even worse in my eyes.
We do have some GOOD tv, honest ... I think the problem is that the most popular British shows get brought over here on the BBC America cable channel or as specials on ABC or something, and they're like the best of the best, so of course executives wanna remake the best of the best of the British stuff. It's because it's a good show and the American public and/or the viewers in the source country responded to positively, not so much because it's from the UK, it could be from anywhere so long as it was proven to have good viewing figures.
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Date: 2012-01-29 08:04 am (UTC)Hm, I dunno - from what I've read, they've got even more legitimate ho/foe yay signals coming from the whole Doctor/Master thing, and not just because it's been around for much longer. I have to reluctantly admit that Jim/Sherlock, despite it now starting to contest with Jim/Seb as my OTP for the show, really gives me one-sided vibes, especially after seeing TRF, while on the other hand, Doctor/Master… Well, has a better situation handed to it. All of this just from what I've read and that one YouTube video I saw. Oh boy. ;D
"Heh heh ... fuck you Sherlock, you gotta die too!" and "There's no reason for me to keep going anymore ... bye now!"
Yeah, both, to me, are most likely the big reasons for that occurring.
And yeah, I've been hearing a lot about people speculating on how Jim would survive eating a bullet, and I'd be lying if I said that I didn't hope that he could possibly come back at some point. However, I'm also sort of thinking that since canon supposedly gives Moriarty a brother or two with the same name, they could at least use that as an excuse to bring Andrew Scott back, or they could make Sherlock a bit haunted by his memory also, or even…
[continues on with even less coherent theories for ten minutes]
…Anyway, back to the way that I fangirl over the badass known as Sebastian Moran.
(Yes, that includes the people that are awkwardly staring.)
I wonder if Mycroft knows.
That's… Admittedly a bit up in the air for me at the moment. Mycroft's a smart dude that works in politics - I wouldn't be surprised if he was only pretending to be devastated by learning of Sherlock's "death" at that club if he actually knew about the plan. You know, in order to keep up the façade. (Then again, it could also be argued that he could probably not be faking his despair, but that it's actually brought upon him because he's gotten even more upset with himself over selling out his brother and that now, and because of it, everyone in the world believes that his little brother is a complete fraud. Considering how Sherlock is possibly one of the only people that he cares about, those have got to be considerable blows for him.)
We do have some GOOD tv, honest…
Yeah, sort of true: I like White Collar, House, The Colbert Report, The Daily Show, Dexter, Burn Notice, Psych (which may or may not be a parody of a few of the tropes prominent in Sherlock Holmes itself), Supernatural, South Park…
…they're like the best of the best, so of course executives wanna remake the best of the best of the British stuff.
The problem, though, is that pretty much every remake I've seen of UK - or almost any other foreign - shows are mostly just… "meh" at best. A good thing about BBC shows is that they don't have commercials interrupting their programs, so they often have more time to develop something compelling with their episodes, which can get a bit lost in an Americanized translation, especially when aired on channels that are really heavy with the ads. (I'm looking at you, ABC.)
Then there's simply my sinking feeling that they're just being lazy when they decide to remake the best shows outside of the US. I mean, for god's sake, "Elementary." Title based on possibly one of the biggest cases of Beam Me Up, Scotty known to man. (Okay, yeah, he did say "elementary" at one point in the books, but you get what I'm talking about, I hope.)
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Date: 2012-01-29 04:55 pm (UTC)Well, yes, it's definately pretty one-sided where Sherlock and Moriarty are concerned, but it would be so very easy to write Sherlock as a little curious about Moriarty's overtures. And then the finale smashed it all with a hammer, but whatever, it was fun. I was so certain that Moriarty was gonna kiss Sherlock on the roof before shooting himself, really, it looked like he was about to ... but he didn't. Which was fine, but I was still very sad.
But a lot of little things, little scenes and mannerisms and such, seem to have been copy/pasted and then tweaked. Once you've watched all of season 3, take a look at this post to see what I mean:
http://agentphillips87.livejournal.com/92479.html
However, I'm also sort of thinking that since canon supposedly gives Moriarty a brother or two with the same name, they could at least use that as an excuse to bring Andrew Scott back, or they could make Sherlock a bit haunted by his memory also, or even…
Indeed! Andrew Scott is luverly, and he's a very talented actor, it'd be fun to see him playing another Moriarty ... but it'd be even better to see him as THE Moriarty, somehow, again. Maybe he left Sherlock taunting video clips at various hideouts for his criminal organization around the world? Maybe Seb gets flashbacks?
[continues on with even less coherent theories for ten minutes]
Oh please, continue!
…Anyway, back to the way that I fangirl over the badass known as Sebastian Moran.
EEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEE, Black Books GIF!!!!!!!!! I love that show! I love Bernard, he's like a cynical, horrible, drunk Geoffrey Tennant! (And I love Dylan Moran, have you seen "You Kill Me" by any chance?)
Regardless of whether Mycroft knows that Sherlock is alive or thinks he's dead, he's got some serious angst and guilt going on. If he's helping Sherlock, he's going to start feeling a little better because he's making up for it, but if he thinks Sherlock is dead he's gonna be hurting for a long time. And seeing as their relationship was rocky a long time before this, I don't think Sherlock would give him an opportunity to apologize or make up for it, after he's all "I'm back from the dead! Oh hai John, I see you have a wife, ignore her and come solve crimes with me! *swooshes away*"
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Date: 2012-01-29 11:43 pm (UTC)Oh, that. Well, basically, to quote myself from this:
XD
Maybe he left Sherlock taunting video clips at various hideouts for his criminal organization around the world? Maybe Seb gets flashbacks?
Oh please, continue!
You just picked out two of them already.
Besides, I can't even remember what most of the other ones were, anyway.;PEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEE, Black Books GIF!!!!!!!!! I love that show! I love Bernard, he's like a cynical, horrible, drunk Geoffrey Tennant! (And I love Dylan Moran, have you seen "You Kill Me" by any chance?)
…Ehe, no? It was just a random flailing gif I found by chance over on Tumblr a while back. (If you think about it, though, you could imagine that it's actually Benedict Cumberbatch suddenly going crazy on the set. I dunno, that's a much more hilarious idea to me.) XD
Regardless of whether Mycroft knows that Sherlock is alive or thinks he's dead, he's got some serious angst and guilt going on.
Mycroft was already feeling remorse for just handing Sherlock's life story like that to Jim. He actually apologized to John for it, something that I don't really believe he would do unless the situation called for it. Having what happened in the ending probably isn't going to help matters for him. :\
"I'm back from the dead! Oh hai John, I see you have a wife, ignore her and come solve crimes with me! *swooshes away*"
lol, maybe after John faints and/or punches Sherlock.
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Date: 2012-01-30 01:43 am (UTC)Yeah, when my little sister and I were watching that scene on iPlayer, we were both basically saying, “What’s going on here? Why are they standing so close?!”
…Seriously, just kiss already.
*sporfles* Your sister sounds like a lot of fun to watch tv with!
That clip makes it look like Sherlock's going to make a move on Moriarty, when all the other times I've thought it was Moriarty about to kiss Sherlock. There's a moment right before he shoots himself when I was CERTAIN he was gonna kiss Sherlock, a little peck at most ... but he didn't. Maybe there's a deleted scene or a blooper or something where he does?! *crosses fingers and prays*
You just picked out two of them already.
Well, in this tech-savvy-villain world, I think taunting video messages are gonna crop up quite a lot. They already are. Seems a logical choice for Moriarty. He already hacked into John's blog and left that creepy-as-fuck taunting video clip!
And I'm a sucker for flashbacks, really I am, some of my favorite episodes of TV are the flashback episodes. All those Buffy and Angel episodes where we see the vampires doing stuff ages ago, "Out of Gas" and "Safe" of Firefly, "Six Months Ago" and "Company Man" of Heroes, "Speak Like A Child" of Cowboy Bebop ... *cries*
…Ehe, no? It was just a random flailing gif I found by chance over on Tumblr a while back. (If you think about it, though, you could imagine that it's actually Benedict Cumberbatch suddenly going crazy on the set. I dunno, that's a much more hilarious idea to me.) XD
Oh, sorry, I thought you knew it was from Black Books! At first I did think it was Benedict Cumberbatch flailing on set because it looked like something he'd do.
Give Black Books a go, though. The first episode isn't quite a good representation of what the rest of the show is gonna be like, you might wanna start with episode two ... but then again episode one has Martin Freeman playing a doctor, which is hilarious in hindsight, so you might wanna see it anyways. It's hilarious and cynical and I love it. You might not like it, or you might love it, but let me know if you do get a chance to watch it someday.
I mentioned "You Kill Me" because that's a very strange movie that one of the main actors from Black Books stars in, basically playing the same character from Black Books but in a movie about murder that's funny in a horrible way. Or horrible in a funny way. I don't know, I need to rewatch that movie.
lol, maybe after John faints and/or punches Sherlock.
First he faints, then he punches Sherlock, then he makes out passionately with a confused but happy (and slightly bleeding) Sherlock against a wall. Then the scene ends and when we return to them they're adjusting their clothes and Sherlock is smoking and grinning like a fool. Yes. There is no other way!
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Date: 2012-01-30 02:59 am (UTC)Well, when she's not getting annoyed with you squeeing and raging at everything, yeah, she can be fun to watch a show with if you're trying to find slash material. ^^
(And yes, let us hope for that deleted scene, or for there to be actual bloopers on the DVD. Damn, I miss seeing those on DVDs - why did they stop. :(
Well, in this tech-savvy-villain world, I think taunting video messages are gonna crop up quite a lot. They already are.
Case in point, that video Jim left on John's blog, showing him breaking into 221B. That was humorous, indeed. ;P
Duly noted with the show/movie recs, by the way. They might end up on my recently-growing list of shows to watch. Just got through all three LoTR movies just a couple of weeks ago and the new Star Trek movie in preparation for the prequel and sequel for each, since they're both gonna have Benedict Cumberbatch in villain roles.
Hehe, hello sexy villains. :3
Yeah, yeah, he's technically a dragon in one of the roles, but that voice will still be there… [drool]First he faints, then he punches Sherlock, then he makes out passionately with a confused but happy (and slightly bleeding) Sherlock against a wall. Then the scene ends and when we return to them they're adjusting their clothes and Sherlock is smoking and grinning like a fool. Yes. There is no other way!
Me likes this mental image very much. Although in my head, it was more faint, punch Sherlock, they senselessly make out, capture Moran
NO! Please don't let that happen!, and then smokin' hot sexytimeswhich would probably only be insinuated uponafter that. But your's is awesome too. Gatiss damn well better be the one writing that particular episode, otherwise I highly doubt that it'll happen at all. XDRe: (Was gonna send a note, but this journal…) 8D
Date: 2012-01-30 03:19 am (UTC)That's one of the many things I love about college, watching tv with fellow fans is awesome! I'm an only child, so with the exception of some Torchwood with my dad (and both of us squeeing over Jack Harkness and Ianto, lol) I was usually watching geeky tv alone until now.
(And yes, let us hope for that deleted scene, or for there to be actual bloopers on the DVD. Damn, I miss seeing those on DVDs - why did they stop. :(
We never got any bloopers on the Heroes DVDs. We were all very sad. And then the show started to suck and we were sad for more reasons.
Case in point, that video Jim left on John's blog, showing him breaking into 221B. That was humorous, indeed. ;P
It was funny, yes, but also skin-crawlingly creepy. It was like a violation ... and Mrs. Hudson was RIGHT DOWNSTAIRS! If she'd seen him ... *has a panic attack*
Oh god, yes, Benedict Cumberbatch as sexy villains! THAT WILL BE THE SEXIEST DRAGON SINCE SEAN CONNERY! EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!! And I'm not even that into Star Trek, but Benedict Cumberbatch AND Zachary Quinto in the same movie aldkajflajsflkasjflasjflajalsfjaljlafj excuse me I seem to have exploded several times ... *passes out*
... whoa, where is that GIF from? Did I miss some promotional video or something? *is mesmerized*
capture Moran NO! Please don't let that happen!
He always gets captured in the stories ... but don't worry, he doesn't get killed, and he gets out of prison in the books somehow ... how he managed to escape the noose we don't know, but damn aren't we glad he does!
Because Moriarty totally doesn't die, no, if Holmes can survive a waterfall Moriarty can damn well too, and he'll get back with his boyfriend and they'll do crimes and shoot at Holmes for a couple more years and it'll be great. I AM NOT IN DENIAL!!!!! *cries*I really cannot wait for Moran to appear on the BBC show, he is my favorite and I can't wait to see what they do with him!
Or perhaps ... her?Gatiss damn well better be the one writing that particular episode, otherwise I highly doubt that it'll happen at all. XD
Even if that whole lovely scenario doesn't happen, Gatiss will be sitting there THINKING IT happening, and smirking, and snarking about it on twitter, and that'll be enough for us!
But seriously, let's hope he manages to put in at least the insinuation ...
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Date: 2012-01-29 04:55 pm (UTC)Aha, I loved Psych! Haven't watched it in forever, but I loved the flashbacks and the humor and how you could read Shawn as cheerfully bisexual very very easily. White Collar is awesome, I need to catch up on that too, I loved the characters (especially Neal, yummy!) and how Peter and Elizabeth were happily married and how like every fanfic makes them a delicious OT3 couple. I liked House and then they changed up the team and I lost interest and got busy with other stuff, but I hear it's still good. The Colbert Report and the Daily Show are AWESOME. I'm still a little too scared to get into Dexter, I watched the first couple episodes and never continued. I keep meaning to, though, I hear it's awesome. Burn Notice was like my guilty pleasure, I watched it because I wanted to watch something that wouldn't make me think too hard or write a recap. I spent years avoiding Supernatural because that was all people in the Heroes fandom recommended because of the incest fanfics, I keep meaning to start but I'm a total coward, but Mark Sheppard plays an evil angel and I LOVE HIM so I want to get into that for him alone. Don't watch South Park, but I do respect the creators for their films and musical and comments about censorship.
A good thing about BBC shows is that they don't have commercials interrupting their programs
Whoa, really? How does that work, then? There's no break during an episode at all?
YOU LUCKY DUCKS!!!!!!!!! WHEN CAN I MOVE TO ENGLAND!?!?!???!!?!??!!
which can get a bit lost in an Americanized translation, especially when aired on channels that are really heavy with the ads. (I'm looking at you, ABC.)
Yeah, I remember when I'd watch Doctor Who on BBC America (a cable channel) at my dad's house on weekends, and bits of the episode were cut out for a time limit, and I didn't understand why. And now I know. And I'm not happy.
Then there's simply my sinking feeling that they're just being lazy when they decide to remake the best shows outside of the US.
Yeah, that's hardly ever a good sign. Then again, people say good things about The Office, and that was a UK to US thing.
... the "Elementary" thing is probably gonna suck, though. The title alone made me cringe. He didn't SAY "Elementary, my dear Watson" and I know that and I'm a "stupid American" and Americans aren't all morons who don't understand these things and it's gonna be "Harry Potter and the
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Date: 2012-01-30 12:39 am (UTC)Didn't really help that the very first episode I saw was one where the bad guy had a plan to make it look like Lassie committed murder-suicide with Shawn and leave evidence that Lassie's motive was that the two were former lovers. ("Former lovers?! Really?") XD
White Collar is awesome, I need to catch up on that too, I loved the characters (especially Neal, yummy!) and how Peter and Elizabeth were happily married and how like every fanfic makes them a delicious OT3 couple.
It's one of those really rare shows (or any other medium) where I actually think the main het pairing is just too adorable, despite the fact that I really love the slash a bit more. It's no wonder that people there love the whole OT3 idea - they just want their slash but don't wanna mess with the cute marriage between El and Peter. ^^
My family watched House every Monday until this season, but only because they pushed the time to 9 PM, and that was way too late for my mom to tolerate. Been meaning to get caught up at some point. We still watch the Daily Show and Colbert Report on occasion, though.
I'm still a little too scared to get into Dexter, I watched the first couple episodes and never continued. I keep meaning to, though, I hear it's awesome.
I don't seem to get easily scared, and I can be fairly morbid, so the show's a decent fit for me. XD
I spent years avoiding Supernatural because that was all people in the Heroes fandom recommended because of the incest fanfics, I keep meaning to start but I'm a total coward…
…Ehe, yeah, if you ever hear me say that you're never the same after getting into the SPN fandom, it should be pretty obvious as to what I'm talking about. Pretty amazing, though, how everyone pretty much knows about that. Or at least, I find it cool. XD
Whoa, really? How does that work, then? There's no break during an episode at all?
Well, to answer that question, here's an excerpt from the TV Tropes article on the BBC:
It's essentially like HBO or Showtime, where you need to pay extra to get the channels, but the upside is that the programs on them are basically commercial-free except for possibly one or two ads in between shows, except that in the UK, if you want to get any channels, you have to pay the BBC for that service. Smart move, in my opinion, because then networks aren't dependent on other companies for income, "and thus they can take more risks" with their programing.
Yeah, I remember when I'd watch Doctor Who on BBC America (a cable channel) at my dad's house on weekends, and bits of the episode were cut out for a time limit, and I didn't understand why. And now I know. And I'm not happy.
When I went to go buy ASiP on iTunes to finally discover why people on the web just adored Sherlock, it had a note on the description that said it was the uncut, UK version of the episodes that they were selling you. Didn't take long for me to put two and two together and realize that the PBS version possibly lacked something vital to it, and the thought really annoyed me.
(By the way, on a completely unrelated note, I'm on a Doctor Who episode called "The Lazarus Experiment" while writing this, and nine minutes in, I literally just jumped out of my chair and squealed, "GATISS! OH MY GOD, AND HE'S BLONDE!" Godiss, my favorite Sherlock writer, let me bow down to you.) XD
Re: (Was gonna send a note, but this journal…) 8D
Date: 2012-01-30 01:54 am (UTC)Bahahahahahahaa! I haven't seen that one yet! This is making me want to get back into the show. Shawn is just such a colossal flirt, he's like a slacker version of Jack Harkness, it's beautiful. I keep thinking back to that line in the pilot where Gus sarcastically suggests Shawn ask out a guy they're discussing and Shawn says "Maybe I will!" and the scene where he dances around pretending to be possessed the spirit of a lady who was murdered and sits on Lassie's lap. LOL.
And I loved the Chief. I loved that she was a she, and pregnant at one point, and that was totally ok.
It's one of those really rare shows (or any other medium) where I actually think the main het pairing is just too adorable, despite the fact that I really love the slash a bit more. It's no wonder that people there love the whole OT3 idea - they just want their slash but don't wanna mess with the cute marriage between El and Peter. ^^
I just love the fact that the show makes a marriage WORK, and not STUPID or BORING or ON THE ROCKS, and how Elizabeth isn't threatened when she hears about Peter flirting for a case and just teases him about it, and she has her own career, and she's totally cool with Peter having a
slavesubboxed crook(tvtropes)boyfriendNeal because he's so adorable and sweet and is polite to her and they totally all share a bed and it's delicious.I don't seem to get easily scared, and I can be fairly morbid, so the show's a decent fit for me. XD
I still can't get over the fact that Rita is Darla. She's a badass vampire ... why isn't she a badass vampire ... *shakes head* I'll get into the show eventually, I mean, it's a serial killer, I eat that stuff up with a SPOON, but right now I'm too busy.
…Ehe, yeah, if you ever hear me say that you're never the same after getting into the SPN fandom, it should be pretty obvious as to what I'm talking about. Pretty amazing, though, how everyone pretty much knows about that. Or at least, I find it cool. XD
I'm not scared of the incest anymore (thank you, Walkercest, really, years in the Heroes fandom and I never broke, and then YOU TWO came along ...) but the scary monsters and psychological stuff in the earlier seasons makes me wary. And I'm the kind of person who has to watch EVERY EPISODE, in the right order, I can't skip whole seasons.
It's essentially like HBO or Showtime, where you need to pay extra to get the channels, but the upside is that the programs on them are basically commercial-free except for possibly one or two ads in between shows, except that in the UK, if you want to get any channels, you have to pay the BBC for that service. Smart move, in my opinion, because then networks aren't dependent on other companies for income, "and thus they can take more risks" with their programing.
Oh, I see! Interesting ... and I am now incredibly jealous. That's a good way of doing things ...
(By the way, on a completely unrelated note, I'm on a Doctor Who episode called "The Lazarus Experiment" while writing this, and nine minutes in, I literally just jumped out of my chair and squealed, "GATISS! OH MY GOD, AND HE'S BLONDE!" Godiss, my favorite Sherlock writer, let me bow down to you.) XD
*sporfles* I need to rewatch that episode one of these days now that Gatiss is all famous and stuff.
Have you read his gay porn yet? Or his bisexual Victorian James Bond books?
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Date: 2012-01-30 03:13 am (UTC)lol, and speaking of Jack, Torchwood is another show I've been meaning to get into, because damn. Wow. Just, wow. I am left speechless solely from what my Doctor Who friend has told me about that show. And it sounds delicious. ;3
the scene where he dances around pretending to be possessed the spirit of a lady who was murdered and sits on Lassie's lap.
[nearly swallows gum]
What the-? Oh my. XD
Elizabeth isn't threatened when she hears about Peter flirting for a case and just teases him about it…
I know! She earned so much love from me in that episode. El is so understanding and loving towards Peter, and how she likes to mother Neal, and-! Fluff overload! ^.^
I'm not scared of the incest anymore (thank you, Walkercest, really, years in the Heroes fandom and I never broke, and then YOU TWO came along ...) but the scary monsters and psychological stuff in the earlier seasons makes me wary.
Pff. I feed off of those two things so much. It's amazing that I'm as sane as I am with interests like that.
I need to rewatch that episode one of these days now that Gatiss is all famous and stuff.
lol, it was really weird seeing him kissing an old lady, but yeah, is did a fairly good job with being the monster of the week.
Have you read his gay porn yet? Or his bisexual Victorian James Bond books?
ROFL! I read some of this one piece of homoerotic porn that somebody posted on Tumblr, but I had such a purple overload that I was way too busy hysterically laughing at how not-straight it was. I think I've read full-on slash fics that were way more heterosexual than that. O_o
…Bisexual James Bond books? Where?! O__O
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Date: 2012-01-30 03:37 am (UTC)First season is just guilty pleasure: silly and scary monsters and lots of smex. It's not very good, but we get Jack Harkness and GAY KISSING YAAAAAAAAAAAAAY so who cares about that?
Season 2 is a little more serious and the story is better, but then it gets WICKED depressing and I haven't seen the "season 3" (miniseries) yet but I know what happens and it makes me sad.
But it's so worth it. Just ... don't expect it to be especially GOOD ... it's watchable and fun and all and it'll scare you a bit and make you cry, but it's not at the level of Doctor Who writing or Sarah Jane Adventures writing.
[nearly swallows gum]
What the-? Oh my. XD
I think that's from season 1 ...
Oh wait, I found a clip of it on youtube!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgyJfkgl3MY
Best part? He wasn't pretending to be possessed when he sat on Lassie's lap, he just did that as himself! And it wasn't like a 'heh, I'm gonna mess with him, lol!' moment, it was like 'this is a perfectly natural response for me, sit on this man's lap, yes.' CANON?! I'M NOT USED TO CANON ON MY AMERICAN SHOWS, ONLY MY BBC SHOWS! WHAT IS THIS I DON'T EVEN!
I know! She earned so much love from me in that episode. El is so understanding and loving towards Peter, and how she likes to mother Neal, and-! Fluff overload! ^.^
I need to get back into that show, it was way too much fun for me, I mean, we all know how much I love OT3s ...
ROFL! I read some of this one piece of homoerotic porn that somebody posted on Tumblr, but I had such a purple overload that I was way too busy hysterically laughing at how not-straight it was. I think I've read full-on slash fics that were way more heterosexual than that. O_o
I found it through the Kink Meme, but yeah, purple prose overload! Good god, I wrote better porn when I was fourteen, and I'm a straight girl! He's a gay man, what's his excuse?! (Actually, he wrote it all purple prose because he wrote it for cash and he needed to get the word-count up. I can understand that. But still, LOL!)
…Bisexual James Bond books? Where?! O__O
Lucifer Box, of course! He was Jack Harkness before Jack Harkness existed! (Well, actually, given that he's such a jerk and murders people, maybe a bit more like John Hart … oh wait, you haven't seen Torchwood yet … SPIKE AS A BISEXUAL TIME AGENT OH MY GOOD GOD CAN I LINK YOU TO A YOUTUBE VIDEO PLEASE!?!?!??!)
Anyways, yeah, Lucifer Box is in three books, the first is "The Vesuvius Club," and he's pretty much Victorian bisexual James Bond. It's pretty amusing. Unfortunately, not explicit, we know he's had sex but we only get a little foreplay and then the chapter breaks and the next thing we know they're waking up in bed together, but UNF!
Check it out, they're cheap used on amazon, that's where I got my copy.
According to old BBC articles it's being adapted to tv, but that was in 2007 and there's no current stuff, so I dunno about that. That would be SO COOL THOUGH!!!
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Date: 2012-01-30 12:40 am (UTC)FUCK THE 4300 CHARACTER LIMIT! I MUST EXTERMINATE IT! EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINA-![bricked]
the "Elementary" thing is probably gonna suck, though. The title alone made me cringe. He didn't SAY "Elementary, my dear Watson" and I know that and I'm a "stupid American" and Americans aren't all morons who don't understand these things and it's gonna be "Harry Potter and the
Philosopher'sSorcerer's Stone" all over again, isn't it, but worse?At least with the first HP book, all they did was change the title, change the text to American English spelling, and replace "mummy" with "mommy." Everything else stayed the same. So yeah, "Elementary" is sounding a lot worse just from the title and what little of the premise that I've been hearing about (i.e., setting being NYC). From what I've read on another news article
that I can't remember where to find it, however, it's sounding like the BBC will consider taking action against CBS if it actually turns out that there's enough similarities between the two shows for them to believe that their content has been stolen.(Kind of hard for me to forget that there actually are Americans with an IQ - at least where I live. Luckily, I have a friend who was the one who first introduced me to Doctor Who about three to four years ago
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Date: 2012-01-30 02:04 am (UTC)At least with the first HP book, all they did was change the title, change the text to American English spelling, and replace "mummy" with "mommy." Everything else stayed the same.
But WHY? I never understood WHY?! Even when I was a little kid, I just thought it was cool that it was "sweater/jumper" and "scotch tape/cellotape" and stuff. It's a learning opportunity, why waste time changing that?
Though we did get some damn fine artwork in the American editions. That was cool.
however, it's sounding like the BBC will consider taking action against CBS if it actually turns out that there's enough similarities between the two shows for them to believe that their content has been stolen.
*laughs* That's good any way you slice it! Good if they sue because it's too similar ... and good if they're writing a show that's so similar to the BBC one because the BBC one is awesome. That way it might not be PAINFUL, just annoying or bad, and get cancelled quickly or stick around to amuse and bewilder.
Kind of hard for me to forget that there actually are Americans with an IQ - at least where I live.
*wibbles* Oh come on, we're not all bad, it's like anything: the most vocal/visible part is usually the stupidest/craziest. And to be fair, there's a lot of people in America. Right now I'm at an awesome liberal arts college full of wonderful geeky people who are smart and nice. Back home, I lived in a town where hardly anyone wanted to leave the state, let alone the country. *shrugs*
I have a friend who was the one who first introduced me to Doctor Who about three to four years ago and who's utterly obsessed with David Tennant
*sporfles* I think we ALL have "that one friend who's obsessed with David Tennant" or have had a friend like that in their life at some point. *shrugs* He's mighty fine to look at and a great and talented actor ... but there were times when he got too angsty, he cried too much, he got stubborn and scary, he went crazy, he spent a whole season whining about Rose while Martha just stood there and looked sad, and by the end I was so ready for him to be gone and welcome Matt Smith.
Then of course we just watched the Family of Blood two-parter last week at the Doctor Who Club and I cried and wailed "I miss David Tennant!" and a couple other girls did the same, so it's kind of a confusing relationship.
Damn good Hamlet, though!
I watched the original Pilot to "Being Human" ages ago, and then they recast and I never picked it up again. Is it any good, I've heard talk about it ...
Also, I thought it was a Canadian remake? They air it in America on the SyFy Channel I think, but I don't think they did an American version ...
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Date: 2012-01-30 04:07 am (UTC)That's good any way you slice it! Good if they sue because it's too similar ... and good if they're writing a show that's so similar to the BBC one because the BBC one is awesome. That way it might not be PAINFUL, just annoying or bad, and get cancelled quickly or stick around to amuse and bewilder.
I have a really big problem with anything that just copies and pastes another show down for their own use like that unless they plan on doing it better than the source material. Which is the problem. Other than The Blind Banker, I really don't see how they'd "improve" on the original, especially since an episode of this show would only be a total of 40 or so minutes long without commercials, making it even shorter than the unaired pilot, and thus making it almost impossible to effectively make an American retelling that would catch my interest. If it's gonna even attempt making the stories similar to BBC then, I'm gonna get more than livid with CBS, even if the show only ends up lasting less than five eps.
Oh come on, we're not all bad, it's like anything: the most vocal/visible part is usually the stupidest/craziest.
I live close to Portland, Oregon, one of the most liberal places you'll come across (the city's unofficial motto is "Keep Portland Weird"), so I have good company on occasion.
I think we ALL have "that one friend who's obsessed with David Tennant" or have had a friend like that in their life at some point.
Not where I live, considering that the only thing I've seen him in that's actually known in the US that well was the fourth Harry Potter movie.
Also, I thought it was a Canadian remake? They air it in America on the SyFy Channel I think, but I don't think they did an American version ...
Hm. Maybe, since TV Tropes says it's just a North American creation, although the same article says that it's an American remake. [shrug]