What aunt_zelda Thinks: Forest of the Dead
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aunt_zeldaThis episode is MADE OF WIN! *huggles it*
Previously onLost Doctor Who: running! Flesh-eating shadows! British Molly Walker, hereafter reffered to as 'BMW!' 4,022 saved ... no survivors. River Song knows the Doctor, but he doesn't know her yet! BMW's world is all LIES! Ghost-gadgets! Donna Noble has been 'saved!' ... hey, who turned out the lights?
RS sonics an escape route through the bookcases. BMW informs her father that The Library is on TV again. He reminds her it's all in her head. BMW changes the channels and gets something like security-camera-footage of The Library. Then she sees Donna being unloaded from an ambulence. BMW seems surprised to see Donna there.
Dr. Moon shows up to visit Donna. He pulls the 'you've been here for two years' deal and she remembers. It's very scary. They go for a walk.
"No more dreams, then? The Doctor, the blue box, time and space." I think I dreamed of David Tennant last night. Though, seeing as all I've been watching this weekend is Blackpool, his Casanova, and DW, that's understandable.
"You say 'river' and suddenly we're feeding ducks." Ah, so it's not Donna FORGETTING, it's Donna confuzzled.
Naaaaw, I like the man with the stutter! Cute ... I'd fish with him!
Donna gets all dressed up in this sequined black thing, but it rains and she and cute-stuttterer sit under and umbrella by the river. It's cute. Then suddenly he's carrying her across the threshhold of a house in a wedding dress, and he isn't stuttering. Then they've got two screeching children! All of this happens in about five shots.
Then Dr. Moon is visiting Donna. He says how pleased he is that she's fully intigrated. Then he flicekrs and the Doctor flickers in. "Definately coming from the moon ..." he remarks to someone as he sonics something. "Oh, Donna!" and then he's gone and Dr. Moon is back. Donna gasps and says she saw the Doctor.
"Yes you did. And then you forgot." Dr. Moon says. And Donna forgets. It's incredibly creepy, like something fromt he Matrix, except nothing's green.
The gang at The Library seem to have been on a D&D campaign while we've been with Donna. they've come right back to where they all met, and sun is setting. As her fellows grill her about the Doctor, RS says she trusts the Doctor to the end of the universe. "And actually, we've been."
Ok, I can see why you lot think she's Jack, but just ... no. No way in HELL. Just drop it now and spare yourselves the embaressment. Please. I don't know WHO she is, but she's not Jack and she's not Jenny.
Anyhoodle, the Doctor's having trouble with his screwdriver.Bloody HELL, as if I didn't have enough on my plate! RS proposes different settings that he tells her it doesn't have. She says it will, and holds up her steampunked sonic screwdriver. "I didn't pluck it out of your cold dead hands, if that's what you're worried about." *sighs with relief* Thank you, gods above!
Anyhoodle, they bicker, Mr. Rich-Prick explodes and says they're all gonna die and RS and the Doctor are fighting like 'an old married couple.' RS and the Doctor stare at each other. NO! NO NO NO NOOOOOOOOOOO! THE DOCTOR CAN ONLY MARRY THE MASTER!!!
Yeah, so RS proves to the Doctor that he can trust her by whispering something in his ear that WE don't hear, and nobody else does because the emotional, ominous music plays. She asks if they're good, he can't speak for a bit, but says yeah, they are, and ... I'm worried. VERY worried indeed.
Apparently hairdryers interfear with the Doctor's sonic screwdriver. Tee hee. If only the Master had more HAIR ...
Apparently the moon is a 'Dr. Moon,' a virus-checker for the planet. Cooooooool ... the Doctor deduces that someone on the planet is alive and communicating with the moon. "Or, possibly, alive and drying their hair ..."
One of the gang has two shadows. The Doctor tints her helmet to fool the Vasha-whatsits.
"You said there were five people still alive in this room ... so why are there six?" Yeek! Other-Dave's skeleton is back, with it's terrifying catch-phrase "Hey, who turned out the lights?" all over again ...
BMW changes the channel from Other-Dave to Donna's Sitcom. Donna's daughter made a little humanoid out of clay. "Where's the face?" Donna asks. "I don't know." the girl replies. I'll classify that as 'cute' unless it's a plot-point or foreshadowing or summat.
Donna spots a black-cloaked figure vanished outside. YEEK! Then time-blips again. Poor Donna ...
She sees the figure again, which, on closer inspection, looks to me like one of those 1880's mourning ladies, in ruffled black dress with a bustle and a veil.
Donna gets a note telling her that the world is wrong, and to meet the author of the note tomorrow. BMW wails "Nooooo! Don't go!" Yeek! (I'm getting annoyed by all the 'yeek!' moment in this episode.)
Donna meets with black-veiled-lady at the playground. Veil-lady explains how time works in the land of dreams, once you decide to do something, you find yourself arriving. Yeek! Apparently she's all that's left of Miss Evangalista. YEEK!
Oooo, music time! *dances as the 'run up and down lots of corridors' staple begins once more*
RS tells Other-Dave to stay with the Doctor and "pull him out when he's too stupid to leave." But this is Doctor Who, and the Doctor MUST try to reason with the monster-of-the-week.
Apparently the Vashdanarada hunt in forests, but this is a library, and the Doctor wants to know why they're hunting in here.
"This ... is our ... forest."
It takes the Doctor a while to remember that he's SURROUNDED by 'trees' if you will. "A million million books, hatching shadows." YEEEEEEEEEK! (I don't want to read anymore, Mr. Moffat!)
Now BOTH Daves have been eaten. The Doctor blabbers on about how he talks to much. "Want to know the only reason I'm still alive? Always stay near the door." and he cuts a hole in the floor and falls DOWN.
Of course, the clings to the underside, but I was scared there for a minute.
BMW smiles as she watches the Doctor pull himself along a metal bar, bajillions of feet above the ground, to epic music. Tee hee, she is the embodiment of us all. Now all she needs to do is wish the Master were around and she'll have us in a nutshell!
Back at the playground, Evangalista tells Donna that the easiest place to see 'the lie' is here. Donna remembers that Evanga is dead, but she says "In a way, we're all dead here. We're the dead of the Library." She then tells Donna that her children are dead too. Then she shows us that all the children in this world are the SAME. The same boy and the same girl and there's about a dozen of them at this playground, all the SAME. *freaks* I was about to say 'YEEK!' but then Donna rips off Evanga's veil and then I REALLY say 'YEEEEEEEEEEEEK!' and BMW screams and hides her face behind a pillow and CAN YOU BLAME HER?!
RS tells what's-her-name that the Doctor's here, and he came when she called, just like he always does. "But not my Doctor." she smiles. "Now my Doctor ... I've seen whole armies turn and run away, and he'd just swagger off back to his TARDIS, and open the doors with a snap of his fingers."
Then the Doctor reapers! Yay!
"Nobody can open a TARDIS by snapping their fingers. It doesn't work like that."
"It does for the Doctor," RS insisits.
"I am the Doctor." he snaps.
"Yeah," she sighs. "Someday ..."
And THIS is where I thought 'Wait ... what if RS hasn't been with the Doctor at all?! What if she's been with the MASTER?!'
Think about it, please. I've listened to people specualting that RS is Jack for a week, you could at least listen to ME.
Tinted-visor asks the Doctor what RS said to him. "I could use a word like that."
But the Doctor figures out about 'saved' vs. 'safe' ...
Apparently Evang's face was destroyed but it did wonders for her intellect. Tee hee ...
The copied children 'save space.' CYBERSPACE.
BMW screams "No, don't tell! You mustn't tell!"
Oooo, that's cool! All the people are saved in the harddrive!
Donna is annoyed that 'this' isn't her real body. "But I've been dieting!"
BMW freaks at the word 'CAL.' She eventually throws a fit, screaming at the TV that she hates them. Her dad shows up and asks what's wrong, she tells him to shut up, clicks the remote, and he vanishes. She freaks about that too and chucks the remote away. An alarm goes off in The Library.
The planet's gonna crack like an egg. The Dr. Moon is supposed to stop 'it,' but BMW blips him away.
The gang goes down an elevator. Donna freaks with her children, then they vanish, and she WAILS. It's a horrible noise, a noise such as I haven't heard since ... well, technically since the Lost finale, when Sun SCREAMS, but this is a different scream. It's AWFUL. It should not be on a 'children's show.'
The Doctor tries to wake the computer up, and BMW's room goes berserk, but nothing works.
Turns out 'Rich Prick' isn't a prick at all! He was protecting family, CAL is Charlotte Abigail Lux, and she was dying so they put her into the computer, to live in any era with all those books ... I'm jealous, is that wrong?
"She's got four-thousand minds chatting away in her head, it must be like ... well, being like me."
The Doctor is going to hook himself up to the computer to save everyone. RS says it'll kill him and he won't be able to regenerate. He talks a mile-a-minute and ends with tell her to shut up.
"I hate you sometimes!" she roars.
"I know!" he replied.
RS goes off with Mr. Lux. "Anita, if he dies, I'll KILL HIM!"
But it's not Anita anymore, as the Doctor reveals he's known for a while once 'they're' alone.
"Don't play games with me! You just killed someone I like, that is not a safe place to stand! I'm the Doctor. And you're in the biggest library in the universe. Look me up."
WHOA.
The Vasha says he's got one day, and then vanishes.
RS is back! "Lux can manage without me," she says. "But you can't." Then she decks the Doctor. *grinz*
The Doctor wakes up ... handcuffed. (SQUEE! Thank you Mr. Moffat!) "No no no, that's my job!"
"Oh, I'm not allowed to have a career, am I?" RS asks. Tee hee ...
"Why do you even have handcuffs?" the Doctor exclaims.
RS grinz. "Spoilers." *sporfles*
Then comes this utterly FANTASTIC scene. I can't do it justice, but I got teary eyed. Apparently the last time RS saw the Doctor was when he showed up with a new haircut, in a suit, and took her to see the singing towers, and he cried.
You know what she whispered to the Doctor? HIS NAME.
*utterly floored*
When RS says "Spoilers" for the last time I had to muffle a scream. *gulps for air*
Donna looses her husband. He stutters 'D' for a while as she's pulled backwards into light. She promises she'll find him. I feel like crying all over again.
Lux dances around and hugs all the returned people (who are dressed all in black, like stage-managers.) Awwwwwww ...
The Doctor sits there, handcuffed *feeble squee* and looks BROKEN.
The Doctor and Donna get back their witty banter. Hee ... hee ... (hold me, please?)
Donna asks "Is 'all right' special Time Lord code for 'really not all right?'"
"Why?" the Doctor asks.
"'Cause I'm 'all right' too ..."
BUT CUTE STUTTERING MAN IS REAL! He spots Donna but can only stutter 'D' and then he's teleported away! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
As the Doctor sets the TARDIS diary down, a new kind of 'Badwolf Theme' plays. I LOVE that music ... the 'ooooo, oooooo, ouuuuuoooouuu ooooooo ...' thing that plays on the DVD menu ... *huggles it*
Donna asks about her future, how she isn't there when RS meets the Doctor, and he says they COULD look Donna up in the diary, "Shall we peek at the end?"
Donna hesitates, then says "Spoilers ... right?"
The Doctor smiles. "Right."
There's a ghost-clip on the screwdriver! OMG! The Doctor RUNS as never before, to FANTASTIC music, and uploads RS into the computer.
Everything's better inside the computer, CAL and Dr. Moon are there, RS is in white, and the A-Team is back, also in white. The gang hugs.
RS's voiceover says ...
"Some days are special. Some days are blessed. Some days nobody dies at all."
The Doctor snaps his fingers. The TARDIS doors open.
"Now and then, every once in a very long while, every day in a million days, the wind stays fair, and the Doctor comes to call."
The Doctor snaps the doors shut.
"Everybody lives."
RS has her diary, and she kisses the little girl's forehead. (She's got three kids ... awww!)
She reaches the door. "Sweet dreams, everyone."
And she turns out the light.
*smiles*
Next Week: Donna doesn't do much, from what I've read of spoilers, but the Doctor is trapped on a space-bus with a bunch of strangers at midnight. Something's trying to bust in. There's screaming and snipping and ... is the Doctor wearing necklaces? Eh?
Well, looks like fun, on a low budget! Yay!
Previously on
RS sonics an escape route through the bookcases. BMW informs her father that The Library is on TV again. He reminds her it's all in her head. BMW changes the channels and gets something like security-camera-footage of The Library. Then she sees Donna being unloaded from an ambulence. BMW seems surprised to see Donna there.
Dr. Moon shows up to visit Donna. He pulls the 'you've been here for two years' deal and she remembers. It's very scary. They go for a walk.
"No more dreams, then? The Doctor, the blue box, time and space." I think I dreamed of David Tennant last night. Though, seeing as all I've been watching this weekend is Blackpool, his Casanova, and DW, that's understandable.
"You say 'river' and suddenly we're feeding ducks." Ah, so it's not Donna FORGETTING, it's Donna confuzzled.
Naaaaw, I like the man with the stutter! Cute ... I'd fish with him!
Donna gets all dressed up in this sequined black thing, but it rains and she and cute-stuttterer sit under and umbrella by the river. It's cute. Then suddenly he's carrying her across the threshhold of a house in a wedding dress, and he isn't stuttering. Then they've got two screeching children! All of this happens in about five shots.
Then Dr. Moon is visiting Donna. He says how pleased he is that she's fully intigrated. Then he flicekrs and the Doctor flickers in. "Definately coming from the moon ..." he remarks to someone as he sonics something. "Oh, Donna!" and then he's gone and Dr. Moon is back. Donna gasps and says she saw the Doctor.
"Yes you did. And then you forgot." Dr. Moon says. And Donna forgets. It's incredibly creepy, like something fromt he Matrix, except nothing's green.
The gang at The Library seem to have been on a D&D campaign while we've been with Donna. they've come right back to where they all met, and sun is setting. As her fellows grill her about the Doctor, RS says she trusts the Doctor to the end of the universe. "And actually, we've been."
Ok, I can see why you lot think she's Jack, but just ... no. No way in HELL. Just drop it now and spare yourselves the embaressment. Please. I don't know WHO she is, but she's not Jack and she's not Jenny.
Anyhoodle, the Doctor's having trouble with his screwdriver.
Anyhoodle, they bicker, Mr. Rich-Prick explodes and says they're all gonna die and RS and the Doctor are fighting like 'an old married couple.' RS and the Doctor stare at each other. NO! NO NO NO NOOOOOOOOOOO! THE DOCTOR CAN ONLY MARRY THE MASTER!!!
Yeah, so RS proves to the Doctor that he can trust her by whispering something in his ear that WE don't hear, and nobody else does because the emotional, ominous music plays. She asks if they're good, he can't speak for a bit, but says yeah, they are, and ... I'm worried. VERY worried indeed.
Apparently hairdryers interfear with the Doctor's sonic screwdriver. Tee hee. If only the Master had more HAIR ...
Apparently the moon is a 'Dr. Moon,' a virus-checker for the planet. Cooooooool ... the Doctor deduces that someone on the planet is alive and communicating with the moon. "Or, possibly, alive and drying their hair ..."
One of the gang has two shadows. The Doctor tints her helmet to fool the Vasha-whatsits.
"You said there were five people still alive in this room ... so why are there six?" Yeek! Other-Dave's skeleton is back, with it's terrifying catch-phrase "Hey, who turned out the lights?" all over again ...
BMW changes the channel from Other-Dave to Donna's Sitcom. Donna's daughter made a little humanoid out of clay. "Where's the face?" Donna asks. "I don't know." the girl replies. I'll classify that as 'cute' unless it's a plot-point or foreshadowing or summat.
Donna spots a black-cloaked figure vanished outside. YEEK! Then time-blips again. Poor Donna ...
She sees the figure again, which, on closer inspection, looks to me like one of those 1880's mourning ladies, in ruffled black dress with a bustle and a veil.
Donna gets a note telling her that the world is wrong, and to meet the author of the note tomorrow. BMW wails "Nooooo! Don't go!" Yeek! (I'm getting annoyed by all the 'yeek!' moment in this episode.)
Donna meets with black-veiled-lady at the playground. Veil-lady explains how time works in the land of dreams, once you decide to do something, you find yourself arriving. Yeek! Apparently she's all that's left of Miss Evangalista. YEEK!
Oooo, music time! *dances as the 'run up and down lots of corridors' staple begins once more*
RS tells Other-Dave to stay with the Doctor and "pull him out when he's too stupid to leave." But this is Doctor Who, and the Doctor MUST try to reason with the monster-of-the-week.
Apparently the Vashdanarada hunt in forests, but this is a library, and the Doctor wants to know why they're hunting in here.
"This ... is our ... forest."
It takes the Doctor a while to remember that he's SURROUNDED by 'trees' if you will. "A million million books, hatching shadows." YEEEEEEEEEK! (I don't want to read anymore, Mr. Moffat!)
Now BOTH Daves have been eaten. The Doctor blabbers on about how he talks to much. "Want to know the only reason I'm still alive? Always stay near the door." and he cuts a hole in the floor and falls DOWN.
Of course, the clings to the underside, but I was scared there for a minute.
BMW smiles as she watches the Doctor pull himself along a metal bar, bajillions of feet above the ground, to epic music. Tee hee, she is the embodiment of us all. Now all she needs to do is wish the Master were around and she'll have us in a nutshell!
Back at the playground, Evangalista tells Donna that the easiest place to see 'the lie' is here. Donna remembers that Evanga is dead, but she says "In a way, we're all dead here. We're the dead of the Library." She then tells Donna that her children are dead too. Then she shows us that all the children in this world are the SAME. The same boy and the same girl and there's about a dozen of them at this playground, all the SAME. *freaks* I was about to say 'YEEK!' but then Donna rips off Evanga's veil and then I REALLY say 'YEEEEEEEEEEEEK!' and BMW screams and hides her face behind a pillow and CAN YOU BLAME HER?!
RS tells what's-her-name that the Doctor's here, and he came when she called, just like he always does. "But not my Doctor." she smiles. "Now my Doctor ... I've seen whole armies turn and run away, and he'd just swagger off back to his TARDIS, and open the doors with a snap of his fingers."
Then the Doctor reapers! Yay!
"Nobody can open a TARDIS by snapping their fingers. It doesn't work like that."
"It does for the Doctor," RS insisits.
"I am the Doctor." he snaps.
"Yeah," she sighs. "Someday ..."
And THIS is where I thought 'Wait ... what if RS hasn't been with the Doctor at all?! What if she's been with the MASTER?!'
Think about it, please. I've listened to people specualting that RS is Jack for a week, you could at least listen to ME.
Tinted-visor asks the Doctor what RS said to him. "I could use a word like that."
But the Doctor figures out about 'saved' vs. 'safe' ...
Apparently Evang's face was destroyed but it did wonders for her intellect. Tee hee ...
The copied children 'save space.' CYBERSPACE.
BMW screams "No, don't tell! You mustn't tell!"
Oooo, that's cool! All the people are saved in the harddrive!
Donna is annoyed that 'this' isn't her real body. "But I've been dieting!"
BMW freaks at the word 'CAL.' She eventually throws a fit, screaming at the TV that she hates them. Her dad shows up and asks what's wrong, she tells him to shut up, clicks the remote, and he vanishes. She freaks about that too and chucks the remote away. An alarm goes off in The Library.
The planet's gonna crack like an egg. The Dr. Moon is supposed to stop 'it,' but BMW blips him away.
The gang goes down an elevator. Donna freaks with her children, then they vanish, and she WAILS. It's a horrible noise, a noise such as I haven't heard since ... well, technically since the Lost finale, when Sun SCREAMS, but this is a different scream. It's AWFUL. It should not be on a 'children's show.'
The Doctor tries to wake the computer up, and BMW's room goes berserk, but nothing works.
Turns out 'Rich Prick' isn't a prick at all! He was protecting family, CAL is Charlotte Abigail Lux, and she was dying so they put her into the computer, to live in any era with all those books ... I'm jealous, is that wrong?
"She's got four-thousand minds chatting away in her head, it must be like ... well, being like me."
The Doctor is going to hook himself up to the computer to save everyone. RS says it'll kill him and he won't be able to regenerate. He talks a mile-a-minute and ends with tell her to shut up.
"I hate you sometimes!" she roars.
"I know!" he replied.
RS goes off with Mr. Lux. "Anita, if he dies, I'll KILL HIM!"
But it's not Anita anymore, as the Doctor reveals he's known for a while once 'they're' alone.
"Don't play games with me! You just killed someone I like, that is not a safe place to stand! I'm the Doctor. And you're in the biggest library in the universe. Look me up."
WHOA.
The Vasha says he's got one day, and then vanishes.
RS is back! "Lux can manage without me," she says. "But you can't." Then she decks the Doctor. *grinz*
The Doctor wakes up ... handcuffed. (SQUEE! Thank you Mr. Moffat!) "No no no, that's my job!"
"Oh, I'm not allowed to have a career, am I?" RS asks. Tee hee ...
"Why do you even have handcuffs?" the Doctor exclaims.
RS grinz. "Spoilers." *sporfles*
Then comes this utterly FANTASTIC scene. I can't do it justice, but I got teary eyed. Apparently the last time RS saw the Doctor was when he showed up with a new haircut, in a suit, and took her to see the singing towers, and he cried.
You know what she whispered to the Doctor? HIS NAME.
*utterly floored*
When RS says "Spoilers" for the last time I had to muffle a scream. *gulps for air*
Donna looses her husband. He stutters 'D' for a while as she's pulled backwards into light. She promises she'll find him. I feel like crying all over again.
Lux dances around and hugs all the returned people (who are dressed all in black, like stage-managers.) Awwwwwww ...
The Doctor sits there, handcuffed *feeble squee* and looks BROKEN.
The Doctor and Donna get back their witty banter. Hee ... hee ... (hold me, please?)
Donna asks "Is 'all right' special Time Lord code for 'really not all right?'"
"Why?" the Doctor asks.
"'Cause I'm 'all right' too ..."
BUT CUTE STUTTERING MAN IS REAL! He spots Donna but can only stutter 'D' and then he's teleported away! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
As the Doctor sets the TARDIS diary down, a new kind of 'Badwolf Theme' plays. I LOVE that music ... the 'ooooo, oooooo, ouuuuuoooouuu ooooooo ...' thing that plays on the DVD menu ... *huggles it*
Donna asks about her future, how she isn't there when RS meets the Doctor, and he says they COULD look Donna up in the diary, "Shall we peek at the end?"
Donna hesitates, then says "Spoilers ... right?"
The Doctor smiles. "Right."
There's a ghost-clip on the screwdriver! OMG! The Doctor RUNS as never before, to FANTASTIC music, and uploads RS into the computer.
Everything's better inside the computer, CAL and Dr. Moon are there, RS is in white, and the A-Team is back, also in white. The gang hugs.
RS's voiceover says ...
"Some days are special. Some days are blessed. Some days nobody dies at all."
The Doctor snaps his fingers. The TARDIS doors open.
"Now and then, every once in a very long while, every day in a million days, the wind stays fair, and the Doctor comes to call."
The Doctor snaps the doors shut.
"Everybody lives."
RS has her diary, and she kisses the little girl's forehead. (She's got three kids ... awww!)
She reaches the door. "Sweet dreams, everyone."
And she turns out the light.
*smiles*
Next Week: Donna doesn't do much, from what I've read of spoilers, but the Doctor is trapped on a space-bus with a bunch of strangers at midnight. Something's trying to bust in. There's screaming and snipping and ... is the Doctor wearing necklaces? Eh?
Well, looks like fun, on a low budget! Yay!
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Date: 2008-06-10 04:11 pm (UTC)*nodnod* I'm afraid I can't say anything else about that ...
I rewrote/expanded the later scene with the Doctor and Donna and her question about RS not knowing her to a couple of the Doctor/Donna communities. I just felt a little more had to be said there. But otherwise, a lovely, lovely episode.
Meh, I believe that if Donna liked the Doctor she'd be all "snog me, alien boy, or I'm off!" and we'd see that onscreen, but that's just me. 'S long as people notice the similarities between her and the Master ...
And it's really surprising he doesn't run into people he's going to meet in his future more often, he's certainly met his past selves often enough. :)
True ... but it's easy to bring up the past, but making up future-events is more difficult.
Also, I think RS knows his name because he knew he had to tell her so that she could tell it to him then so that he'd know to trust her, since he knew it was going to happen. Wibbley Wobble Timey Wimey!!!
SQUEEEEEE! (I'm just happy that we got to see DT in handcuffs ...)
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Date: 2008-06-10 11:14 pm (UTC)*GRINZ* He deserves that. Really, he does. If the Master can't do it, it should be Donna.
I was thinking more about him pointing out that he's about a thousand years old and she won't live to see more than a portion of that, and then to have Donna say just the right thing to bring him back to the perspective of the moment.
Like "Stop babbling, you Martian" and snog the hell out of him? Methinks the TARDIS would approve of that union ... the Doctor/Rose girls, however, would cry. Not that I'd care, probably, because most of them have thrown shoes at my head.
True - though I'd really like to find out what made Queen Elizabeth so pissed at him in the Shakespeare Code. :)
ME TOO!
Normally that doesn't do much for me, but David... Just... WOW. That moment after she's 'died' and he's just leaning against his handcuffed wrist. Just did me in. completely.
*gulps furiously* That was ... awful. Just as bad as when he SCREAMS.
The handcuffed-ness was great, though ... *concentrates on that*
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Date: 2008-06-11 02:24 pm (UTC)Me too!
Actually, she'd probably be very sensible and pull him back down to earth, BUT - I like your idea very much too.
Hee hee, my imagination runs off and tramples cities from time to time ...
The Doctor/Rose stuff is a bit ridiculous. He loved her, he always loves his companions, and she was special to him because she helped him survive post-Time War, but she was way too young and immature. Rose never saw him for who and what he really is. She just never got it - that wonderful scene in School Reunion when he's telling her he's going to outlive her by centuries, even millenia, and all she can think about is whether he was about to say 'someone you love'. Clueless. He needed her energy and simplicity and warmth at that time in his life, but it was never this forever romance with kids and happily every after (gah, that drives me nuts) - can't happen with the Doctor. River Song's whole final monologue is about that. Donna has the capability of understanding it and him, even if she wants to hold onto what she's got now for as long as she can.
THANK YOU! *huggles you* Yeah, Rose was his savior, but she had her 'faults' and the Doctor is like her great-great-great-great-great (etc.) grandfather and ... yeah, Rose/Doctor was not a sexual romantic relationship at all.
RS was wonderful. I can't wait to see what happens with her.
Donna WOULD get it, I think.
I have the worst case of simple, pure lust towards that man that I've ever had. It's very sad. ;)
Don't we all? (It's not sad!)
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Date: 2008-06-11 08:45 pm (UTC)Tee hee, same here!
Exactly. The Doctor loved her for her youth and irrepressible optimism, but I saw the relationship a lot like the one he had with Jo Grant back when Jon Pertwee was playing him. She made him laugh and feel happy after he thought he'd never be able to feel that way again. That's wonderful and he does love her but not in a sexual way.
Oh my god ... why didn't I see that before?! Rose is totally like Jo Grant! They're even both blond! And people never slashed Pertwee and Jo because she was so little and young and he looked rather old, but people forget, with DT, that he's entering his dirty-old-man era of Time-Lord-ness! *shakes head* That's why you can ship Joan Redfern and John Smith, but not the Doctor and Joan, or the Doctor and Rose.
Doctor/Master, however, FITS.
Or, perhaps, the Doctor/Face of Boe. After all, we were never told who the other parent of 'baby Bohema' was ...
RS was really interesting. Difficult for the Doctor, though, to go through the whole relationship knowing what's going to happen to her.
As if he needed any more gorram ANGST ... that's the Master's job, silly writers!
Donna really gets things more than it seems like she does. She's good for the Doctor with her honesty and mature empathy.
Yeppers! That's why I loved her almost from the start of this season. I love that she took the 'normal' pace of becoming a Companion, getting the key and the phone and such, whereas Rose got it all at once because the Doctor was desperate for someone, ANYONE, to help him, and with Martha he was really cautious and slow about it.
And yeah - DT just has that rare natural magnetism that is irresistable.
*nodnod*
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Date: 2008-06-12 10:57 pm (UTC)Jo was better at silent-communication with the Doctor than Donna was ... and she could get out of those ropes ... and she was pretty good at sneaky-sneak type stuff ...
One of the things I *love* about DT's Doctor is that he looks so young, but he is still able to portray that sense of being truly ancient - he gives the Doctor an old soul in a young body.
*nodnod* Though sometimes he breaks into that 'kid in a candy shop' type thing, which always makes me smile.
But his age does make him a bit more sensitive, I think, about starting relationships at this point. Like he told Donna, when the Time Lords died, they took some of those pieces of him with them.
Ow ow ow ... *huggles soul*
And yes, Donna reminds me a lot of the old-fashioned Doctor's companions. In fact, her relationship with him reminds me of his relationships with Sarah Jane and the second Romana. Sometimes I think Donna reminds him of Romana in particular.
Hee hee ... Donna has been so WONDERFUL for the Doctor ...
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Date: 2008-06-13 08:52 pm (UTC)Hee hee hee ... I love it when tiny blond girls are secretly competent inside and impress important peoples.
That's one of the many wonderful things about the Doctor, how he still manages to feel that little boy excitement about life and the universe. DT's so amazingly good at portraying the depth of the character, all of those sides to his personality.
*nodnod* It's hard to portray that, but you can BELIEVE it when DT and CE do it ... speaking of that, aimisan needs to gimme back my S1 and S2 DVDs! *glares at her*
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Date: 2008-06-11 01:04 am (UTC)-sniffle-
When cute stuttering man tried to say her name on the teleport thing but couldn't I cried a little. I went out to my mom and asked for a hug. -sniffle- that part made me really sad.
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Date: 2008-06-11 08:47 pm (UTC)-sniffle-
When cute stuttering man tried to say her name on the teleport thing but couldn't I cried a little. I went out to my mom and asked for a hug. -sniffle- that part made me really sad.
Donna had better find him and they'd better hook up and have kids ... unless something dreadful happens to Donna in the finale, of which there is a horrible chance ...
(Wait ... is that icon from what I think it is?)
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Date: 2008-06-12 04:35 am (UTC)I really hope that instead of something horrible happening she finds Mr. Cute stutter and leaves the doctor to have his babies.
And yes. THe icon is from what you think it is.
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Date: 2008-06-12 12:20 pm (UTC)Me too! Donna deserves that happy ending of hers ...
Hee hee ... Sylar is sleeping ...