This is a special, it covers not only 'Small Worlds' from last week (because I missed last week) but also 'Countrycide' from last night.
Those were the most disturbing things I've ever seen. I've seen QUITE A LOT, but when you put together pedophiles, fairy-abduction, death by rose petals, Jack CRYING, Gwen/Owen, CANABALISM, UNEXPLAINED CANABALISMN, body parts in the fridge, a freaky chase scene in the woods, skinless-organless bodies, gunshot wounds, and IANTO ALMOST GETTING CUT UP -
If this continues ... I might stop watching. I had trouble getting to sleep last night ... that's never a god sign.
So, on with the recap/rant (the one for 'Countrycide' reads a bit like 'What aunt_zelda Thinks' because I wrote that as I was watching it.)
(Also, finally understand Cybermen. Got explained to me last night with DW. And I love that Mickey/Ricky is staying with the anarchist guy in the van to have fun, slashy adventures … hope they run into another guy with a van, Oz! Werewolf-parallel-love ahoy! *will someday write a fic about that*)
(Small Worlds)
So, I got a bit excited about fairies ... or faeries if you like ... and then they go and do THAT. As if the Spiderwick books weren't bad enough ...
Basically this episode has a pedophile (who dies choking on rose-petals) and a little girl whose almost-stepdad is a bastard and hits her once (though she BIT HIM and has been acting weird) and some creepy fairies/faeries kill one of Jack’s old lovers (from WWII) and take the girl away in time. There’s creepy, plinky music that reminded me of the chimes in ‘The Hard Part’ … it was ok, but very scary and sad and a bit disturbing.
Ok, just last episode, Jack threatened to kill Ianto and his girlfriend, and ordered Ianto to kill his girlfriend, and scared everyone … and this week he’s back with the subtext?! TOUCHING Ianto’s shoulder like that? Honestly … if someone did that to me and my signifigant other (who I lied to ALL MY FRIENDS ABOUT to keep alive) had just died, I’d be very cold to everyone and flinching whenever the guy who ALMOST SHOT ME LAST WEEK (how much of a time-lapse do we have between episodes, anyhoodle?) came NEAR ME, much less touched me in an almost intimate way!
I remember a movie about those fairy-photos … it had Houdini in it … what was up with THAT? *shakes head*
I liked how the faeries were making shadows for Jas, even though we couldn’t really see them … that’d cool …
Ok, I was freaked out and choked up enough as it was after Estelle was DROWNED (I was worried her kitty would be all skinned or something) but when I saw Jack CRYING … my god I started to wail. I felt like crying too! Poor Estelle … did the Time Agents abduct Jack, or did he go off with the Doctor? His time-line is so CONFUSING! (Btw, shouldn’t Jack have taken Moses home? He could have kept it as a pet, along with the Pterodactyl and someday Ianto.)
When Jack said ’15 men, me in charge’ was I the only one who thought ‘massive orgy’?! I expected Jack to be making out with a soldier-boy at LEAST …
At the party, I was SO SURE the grill was going to flame up and burn
Go, evil ninja faeries, go!
Of COURSE the girl’s wearing white …
‘Do you know you walk in the forest?’ I liked that bit … very well done … and Jas skipping off with the glowy butterflies is just such an iconic image to a fairy-tale lover like me that it made up for the rest of the episode.
I liked the last minute or so, when Gwen zooms in on the photo and sees Jas as a faerie. And the voices were just haunting and creepy enough …
‘Well, that was incredibly disturbing’ said my relation, who was watching it with me. And when HE’S disturbed by something, you know it’s bad.
‘Counrycide’
Let is be known that I HATED THIS EPISODE. It was gross, nasty, icky, and, as we learn at the end, totally unnecessary. Are the people even ALIENS?! Are they just your average psychos?! Arrrgh …
Silly red shirt … *sing-song voice* Something’s going to eat you!
“That would be grass.” – hee! That whole bit was just lovely …
Yay for vegetarians, you go Tosh!
Heh, camping … I hate it too!
I say ‘snog’ … is that a bad thing? I love funny British words …
Lisa … *still latched onto Ianto and giving him perpetual huggles*
Owen! You can Gwen are DISGUSTING! Especially you, Owen! (He can say stuff like that, but the hint of a swear, or him NAKED IN A CELL we can handle? Oi …) Thank you, shadowy-hooded thing, for interrupting them! *huggles it*
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWW!!! I didn’t need to see that! Iiiiiiick! *hates skinned corpses*
Heh, someone else doesn’t like camping … we should form a club, me, Owen, and the creepy-crazy-driver …
Hee, ‘been watching us since we arrived’ … bet they’re slashers …
DON’T GO INTO THE GHOST TOWN! THIS IS HOW ZOMBIE MOVIES START YOU IDIOTS!
‘Where is everybody?’ Gwen asks. Uh, they’re DEAD?! Made obvious by the bad lighting and scary music!
I DID NOT NEED TO SEE THAT! *wants to horf like Gwen* I won’t sleep for a week …
“Just a … fox or something.” Yeah, an EVIL fox!
Eeeeeew … dead animals! Eeek! Tosh! *thought she died*
DON’T YOU DARE KILL IANTO! He still has a lifetime of huggles to receive!
Shotgun … sweet!
We REALLY didn’t need to be seeing that bullet and needle stuff …
Oh dear, they’re locked in a cellar … Ianto’s freaking out *huggles him* … *wants to horf AGAIN* WE DON’T NEED TO BE SEEING THIS! Body parts … now I’m thinking about Titus Andronicus … *cellar door, cellar door, cellar door* DON’T EAT IANTO! I WILL KILL YOU ALL!!!
This is just like a zombie movie with all this barricading … I HATE zombie movies! *shivershiver*
‘The Harvest’ … like the second Buffy episode?
Eeek, Jack knows how to torture people … he has CRAZY EYES … that scene was hotter than the preceding Gwen/Owen bits … yeah, I need help …
*sarcastic* Oh no, they’re handcuffing Ianto …
Wait … ‘First, meat has to be tenderized’ … so, they have SEX with them before they kill them?! Iiiiiiick!
That chase scene will keep me out of the woods for YEARS. Poor Tosh … she didn’t deserve this … she was just a medical-person who saw the fake-pig-alien and ran into the Doctor, and the next thing you know she’s with Torchwood, running handcuffed through the woods away from a rapist-cannibal.
They trusted the convenient policeman?! Idiots, stupid, stupid idiots …
I was getting worried that this would be a two-part episode, but just as I was screeching that I’d kill them if they cut up Ianto, Jack bashed his way in and pulled a zombie-movie-move that was all kinds of awesome, with stereotypical epic music, and …
WAIT ONE SECOND! The WHOLE POINT of this freaky-ass, frakin’ disgusting ep with the unexplained cannibles and body parts and STUFF was just to get Gwen and Owen in bed?! RUSSEL T. DAVIES I’M COMING TO HIT YOU OVER THE HEAD WITH A SHOVEL!!! You didn’t even NEED all that, you could have had Gwen and Owen connecting during coffee breaks or something during some very important but OBSCURE crime! Like Xander’s view of things in ‘The Zeppo’ … you could have pulled one of those! The only good bits were the ‘grass’ and the ‘snogging’ conversations at the beginning, Jack torturing with the CRAZY EYES, and Ianto handcuffed.
Next week: Tosh shacks up with a woman. ARE THERE NO STRAIGHT PEOPLE IN THE WORLD?!
Seriously, is that a question on the Torchwood entrance exam? ‘Are you at least curious about the opposite sex?’
(You know, I just realized, you can’t make a slash-name for Gwen/Owen because if you combine their names you get one or the other … does that mean it’s doomed? *hopes so*)
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Date: 2007-10-14 06:11 pm (UTC)Oh damn ... I feel stupid ... though I go through life assuming that everyone is bi until further notice, I forget that in OBVIOUS SITUATIONS LIKE THIS ... *sigh* I know ONE bi person ... well, one bi person who's OUT, I probably know a lot more ... it's just confuzzeling sometimes ... a show like this would NEVER happen in America ... *sigh*
but I like gwen/owen...
You can't name the pairing ... Gwen's cheating ... and Owen has a fish mouth ... they might grow on me, though ... if Owen stops being so icky ...
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Date: 2007-10-14 09:11 pm (UTC)Oh dear ... *eyeroll* I used to wish I was a lesbian, because guys are so ANNOYING, but as much as I wish, I'm still attracted to guys, not girls, or even guys AND girls ... *sigh*
yeah, pretty much everybody makes out with one person of the same and different sex on the show at one point, and there are cannonical gay pairings!
I'M SO CONFUSED! IT'S A SLASHER'S DREAM!
I will continue spamming you with owen icons!
Fish-mouth ... that's the first thing I thought when I saw him ... well, it's actually more like a frog-mouth ... but still, that and 'Oooo! Slash!' when he went off with that girl AND her boyfriend ...
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Date: 2007-10-15 02:04 pm (UTC)Indeed, I love it so ...
still continuing with the icons!
Argh! I don't recognize you without your Agent Smith!
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Date: 2007-10-15 09:08 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-10-16 12:47 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-10-16 12:58 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-10-16 12:08 pm (UTC)(Which episode is your icon from?! *can't wait*)
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Date: 2007-10-16 11:46 pm (UTC)I haven't seen that one yet ... *excited*
I know, torchwood is my newest squee! they even have books on amazon for it.
Wow ... if only I had MONEY *broke manga addict*
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Date: 2007-10-17 12:05 am (UTC)There's a manga for EVERYONE in Japan ... and I mean EVERYONE ... we've got quite a lot here in America now, though ... do you prefer action-oriented (think Naruto) or relationship oriented? I REALLY love 'Godchild' by Kaori Yuki (blood, gore, almost boykissing in Victorian Age England) and 'Vampire Night' by Matsuri Hino (vampires, school, a bit too silly, but it's like everyone is bi.)
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Date: 2007-10-17 01:08 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-10-14 06:20 pm (UTC)Oooh On the deleted scenes for The Rise of the Cybermen, we find out that Ricky and the blond guy were actually together! Too bad they deleted it.
The part about the forest confused me a bit, because I thought the forest was there all the time... but apparantly it's an illusion??
I totally agree that Countrycide = ickyuck! There was an episode of Supernatural with a similar storyline and I hated it then too... *shivers*
Wait, Tosh was in DW? Omg, how did I not know this?
I also dislike Gwen/Owen. And about the name thing, I was thinking the same thing about Sylar/Sylar... because it may be canon now, but you don't really have a good name for it. Sylar squared?
Jack/Ianto <3 XD I just had to add that in there.
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Date: 2007-10-14 09:16 pm (UTC)Hee! I bet it IS!
Oooh On the deleted scenes for The Rise of the Cybermen, we find out that Ricky and the blond guy were actually together! Too bad they deleted it.
You're kidding! I was RIGHT?! My joking anarchist-slash-assumption was CORRECT?! *dances with joy* I hope Mikey's bi ... he and what's-his-name can have slashy adventures blowing things up and running around in that van ...
The part about the forest confused me a bit, because I thought the forest was there all the time... but apparantly it's an illusion??
Yeah, I liked it ...
I totally agree that Countrycide = ickyuck! There was an episode of Supernatural with a similar storyline and I hated it then too... *shivers*
Did ANYONE like that episode? It was too freaky ... I haven't seen Supernatural ... don't people slash the brothers?
Wait, Tosh was in DW? Omg, how did I not know this?
Ok, remember season 1 with Nine? When the spaceship crashed into Big Ben and the body of the alien was brought to that hospital? The person examining it who the Doctor saved was Tosh. Look CLOSELY! I only caught it because I saw promos for Torchwood before I saw the episode.
I also dislike Gwen/Owen. And about the name thing, I was thinking the same thing about Sylar/Sylar... because it may be canon now, but you don't really have a good name for it. Sylar squared?
Yay! Another doubter! Heh ... Sylar-Squared ...
Jack/Ianto <3 XD I just had to add that in there.
Oh yeah, totally ... but Jack touching Ianto THAT SOON after the Lisa thing ... back off, dude.
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Date: 2007-10-14 07:30 pm (UTC)Though I do love Countrycide - it's really creepy, and I love Gwen's freakout at the end, her whole "I have to know" thing that really did a lot to develop her character. And Ianto looks all pretty in normal clothes, at least until they beat him half to death.
What I find interesting, from an American TV watching prespective, is how comfortable the show is with sex, and how squeamish it is about guns. I love the second ep, where Jack hands Gwen a gun, and she tells us she's never used one before - and all American's go "but POLICE OFFICER!". And, even though I'm a hardcore slash fic person, the "gun porn" scene where Jack teaches Gwen how to shoot is one of the hottest things on TV - John Barrowman always moves so well, and both of their joy in it, and I think it was the moment where Gwen became cute for me.
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Date: 2007-10-14 09:22 pm (UTC)Ok, thanks ... but those two episodes were just ... that was too much. I got scarred. Its like they tapered off from what the show's about ... oh yeah, the special-effects vs. characters applies to most shows, I've found.
Though I do love Countrycide - it's really creepy, and I love Gwen's freakout at the end, her whole "I have to know" thing that really did a lot to develop her character.
It scarred me too much. Gwen's freakout WAS good, but I was freaking out too ... character development at my sanity isn't nice ...
And Ianto looks all pretty in normal clothes, at least until they beat him half to death.
Indeed ... but at least they handcuffed him! *questing for the bright-side*
What I find interesting, from an American TV watching prespective, is how comfortable the show is with sex, and how squeamish it is about guns.
Yeah ... that IS odd ...
I love the second ep, where Jack hands Gwen a gun, and she tells us she's never used one before - and all American's go "but POLICE OFFICER!".
Yeah, that WAS odd ... so police don't have guns in England? *confuzzled*
And, even though I'm a hardcore slash fic person, the "gun porn" scene where Jack teaches Gwen how to shoot is one of the hottest things on TV - John Barrowman always moves so well, and both of their joy in it, and I think it was the moment where Gwen became cute for me.
Oh yeah ... after I saw it I said 'that was hot' which I NEVER say about training montages ... now, gun-porn, on the other hand, REALLY gets me going ... I nearly died of happiness in 'Cyberwoman' ...
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Date: 2007-10-14 11:45 pm (UTC)And I thought this fic was a Counrtycide post-ep, but it's not. But I'll link you anyway Broader than the Flood . One of my favorites, anyway.
I think they get back towards aliens and alien tech pretty soon, which is nice, if only because the premise of "fighting aliens, stealing their stuff and arming the future" makes me giggle every time.
And nope, no guns for English cops - I saw somewhere that even with "arming the police" movements over the past few years, less than 10% of the police have any firearms training. Which seems so strange here. But, gun porn FTW - (see icon :), especially when it involves kneeling/pinning against walls. . .
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Date: 2007-10-15 12:58 am (UTC)Hee, we are such strange people ...
And I thought this fic was a Counrtycide post-ep, but it's not. But I'll link you anyway Broader than the Flood . One of my favorites, anyway.
*will read tomorrow*
I think they get back towards aliens and alien tech pretty soon, which is nice, if only because the premise of "fighting aliens, stealing their stuff and arming the future" makes me giggle every time.
Me too, it'd be so very, very lame if Jack didn't say it ...
And nope, no guns for English cops - I saw somewhere that even with "arming the police" movements over the past few years, less than 10% of the police have any firearms training. Which seems so strange here.
Yeah ... that's odd ... do they have lower or higher crime than us because of that? Do less police die? Hmmm ...
But, gun porn FTW - (see icon :),
Have I seen the episode with your icon yet? If not, CAN'T WAIT!
especially when it involves kneeling/pinning against walls. . .
Oh yeah ... I'm so STRANGE ... *shakes head* again, nearly DIED OF HAPPINESS in 'Cyberwoman' with the Jack/Ianto gunporn ...
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Date: 2007-10-15 12:17 am (UTC)that being said..... (and you might hate me for this), but Contrycide is one of my favorite episodes.
not because of the gore (although I don't mind it), but because it doesn't have to do with aliens and such and is really a psychological episode on human behavior. The fact that these people did it for fun is not only disturbing but so utterly wrong on so many levels.
I really hope you don't give up on Torchwood..... because it's really an awesome series....and not because it tends to be very slashy.... but the character development that they do on all the characters is really awesome! (it's Tosh's turn next week).....
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Date: 2007-10-15 12:51 am (UTC)I KNOW THAT ... but scary cutting-people-up-psycological 'thrillers' send me hiding under the bed for WEEKS. I didn't think Torchwood would do that. It was like a kick in the stomach for my favorite show to pull a move that freaked me out so bad ...
not because of the gore (although I don't mind it)
I don't mind GORE so much as SKINLESS BODIES and ORGANS IN THE FRIDGE and LIMBS SCATTERED ABOUT.
The fact that these people did it for fun is not only disturbing but so utterly wrong on so many levels.
*hiding under the bed for WEEKS*
I really hope you don't give up on Torchwood..... because it's really an awesome series....and not because it tends to be very slashy.... but the character development that they do on all the characters is really awesome! (it's Tosh's turn next week).....
I'm so not giving up on it. People have assured me that it gets MUCH better, plus, IANTO! I just can't stand psychological-thriller-body-cutting-up stuff ... character development is wonderful!
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Date: 2007-10-15 04:31 am (UTC)well rest assured, there shouldn't be any more skinless bodies, organs in the fridge, limbs scattered about episodes...... ;)
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Date: 2007-10-15 02:05 pm (UTC)*is petted by strange person*
well rest assured, there shouldn't be any more skinless bodies, organs in the fridge, limbs scattered about episodes...... ;)
Ok, good!