See, the problem is that you're trying to give Loki earth-logic. He does not earth-logic. But Thor, his companions, Heimdall, Odin, and Laufey operate on decently logical terms. Loki, who has grown up with everyone on Asgard and hung out with the formerly human dude-companions (Sif is a goddess, right? Those other guys I thought were human warriors Thor just sort of picked up to hang out with and have adventures with) does not have "earth logic" as you call it. But the movie doesn't fully establish that he's 1) insane 2) operating on Blue-And-Orange-Morality or 3) establish that anyone else in Asgard or Jotunheim is operating on Blue-And-Orange-Morality. Loki starts out acting pretty logical, for a superpowerful magic demigod thingie that's lived for centuries at the very least ... and then in the middle of the movie he goes all ... muddled, and very limited explanation is given. Is he the villain of this movie? Is King Laufey? Is Odin? Is there a villain here at all? I don't know, because the movie couldn't make up its mind and just sort of when "uh ... blah blah blah?" and flailed its hands in the middle and left us with a seriously weak story. Which is unfortunate considering the talent and money that went into it.
Or something. IDK. Dude's a bag of cats. Do they establish that better in the Avengers? Because in Thor I just got confused. I didn't see a batshit crazy guy or a guy who started gradually doing weird shit to win his father's love and prove himself as a rightful king. I saw a character go from sympathetic and sensible to having a big reveal told to him about his life and heritage, flipping out, acting pretty sensible ... and then the next scene was him fucking with his brother's head for no reason other than to make him cry. WTF? Did I miss a cut scene where Loki sat around the throne room and had a fit and wrecked some tables and tried to figure out the whole "son of two worlds" stuff and then made a clear decision to do something about this? What? I mean, I LIKE crazy villains. I LIKE unpredictable crazy villains who set stuff on fire or set elaborate cons in motion or catch the heroes completely off their guard. But there's always some kind of logic going on, even if it's crazy-logic, or dream-logic, or whatever.
Basically, the movie didn't establish Blue And Orange Morality for anyone, and Loki took a complete 180 (almost like I was reading a totally different interpretation of his character) after a ten minute scene break. This annoys me, as a writer and a film lover.
(Lol, bag of cats ... thank you for that mental image. Googling that has brought up some very funny fanart.)
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But Thor, his companions, Heimdall, Odin, and Laufey operate on decently logical terms. Loki, who has grown up with everyone on Asgard and hung out with the formerly human dude-companions (Sif is a goddess, right? Those other guys I thought were human warriors Thor just sort of picked up to hang out with and have adventures with) does not have "earth logic" as you call it.
But the movie doesn't fully establish that he's 1) insane 2) operating on Blue-And-Orange-Morality or 3) establish that anyone else in Asgard or Jotunheim is operating on Blue-And-Orange-Morality. Loki starts out acting pretty logical, for a superpowerful magic demigod thingie that's lived for centuries at the very least ... and then in the middle of the movie he goes all ... muddled, and very limited explanation is given. Is he the villain of this movie? Is King Laufey? Is Odin? Is there a villain here at all? I don't know, because the movie couldn't make up its mind and just sort of when "uh ... blah blah blah?" and flailed its hands in the middle and left us with a seriously weak story. Which is unfortunate considering the talent and money that went into it.
Or something. IDK. Dude's a bag of cats.
Do they establish that better in the Avengers? Because in Thor I just got confused. I didn't see a batshit crazy guy or a guy who started gradually doing weird shit to win his father's love and prove himself as a rightful king. I saw a character go from sympathetic and sensible to having a big reveal told to him about his life and heritage, flipping out, acting pretty sensible ... and then the next scene was him fucking with his brother's head for no reason other than to make him cry. WTF? Did I miss a cut scene where Loki sat around the throne room and had a fit and wrecked some tables and tried to figure out the whole "son of two worlds" stuff and then made a clear decision to do something about this? What?
I mean, I LIKE crazy villains. I LIKE unpredictable crazy villains who set stuff on fire or set elaborate cons in motion or catch the heroes completely off their guard. But there's always some kind of logic going on, even if it's crazy-logic, or dream-logic, or whatever.
Basically, the movie didn't establish Blue And Orange Morality for anyone, and Loki took a complete 180 (almost like I was reading a totally different interpretation of his character) after a ten minute scene break. This annoys me, as a writer and a film lover.
(Lol, bag of cats ... thank you for that mental image. Googling that has brought up some very funny fanart.)